They did the same thing at the assembly hall I attend in Mira Loma. They added a whole ton of fancy TVs around, done for the annual assembly when the new bible was released.
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Turnersville Assembly Hall
by jdubsnub inthe congregation i'm associated with had their assembly recently and i decided to go for one day.
i could not believe how much it felt like one of those mega churches you see on tv.
they've added now 2 very large tv screens on each side of the speaker as well as a monstrous projection screen above.
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The zeal has gone out of the preaching work , their is no more urgency to the work.
by smiddy inthis is an observation i have made .
yesterday a group of jw`s entered the street where i live , i`m at the end of a street and they stood around and obviously joked and mucked around for about 10 minutes as a group opposite my house .their were 3 teenage girls ,1 teenage boy , and 3 older men .
this was about 10:30 am on a saturday.
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i go to a foreign language congregation so we take the car and drive around to cetrain addresses around the city or go to stores and knock on doors looking for people who speak that language. Anyway, going out in field service there is really chill, too chill. There's not a big rush or urgency in finding people. Like when I went to FS recently, all we did was go to a store full beauty prodcuts cause a sister wanted to buy something, and them went to the market to buy food and and something to drink. While at the market, the elder in charge of the car group made a brief "reminder" that we were "looking" for people who looked like they spoke the language. In reality, none of us were and he was telling us how good the food was. Then we sat in the car and talked until it was time to go. Easy way to count your time though it's pretty much cheating. We only found one person working at the store but all they did was give him the magazine to read, nothing else. in my past congregation, we did door to door but hardley anyone opened. And I noticed that the brothers there loved to talk so they would stop in one place out on the street and just talk for a while before moving on sometimes.
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"Worldly" Friends vs "True" Friends
by DuvanMuvan inhey guys i am new to the whole forum thing (long time reader, first time postererer) and i wanted to get some other opinions on something that has bothered me ever since i first became a jehovah's witness.. i was always taught at the kingdom hall that friends inside the orginisation were the only ones i could count on and that the ones out of it (mainly at school) were just being controlled by satan to trick me into leaving the religion.. however, i always found it to be the opposite.
my "worldly"friends were all accepting of my religion (back when i was ok with being a jw) and are the only ones i have really opened up to about wanting to leave.
the only things i have in common with the other teenagers in my hall (3 boys, 3 girls) are that we've all been raised in the truth and... well that's it.. i was just wondering if anyone else found the same thing when they were a teenaged jw or if anyone still in my age finds the same thing..
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The reality isn't black and white like they put it. Not everyone outside is all bad just cause they don't conform to the standards of a JW. I'm a born in and still young, but I never really had any friends in the congregation even while still believing in religion. I did notice while growing up, that there were some younger JWs who would do things they shouldnt have like date, swear, smoke, and hang out with the wrong people. At the Kingdom Hall, they were seen as good young people in the congregation. I never did those things but it got me to question what we were being told. Plus I always had "worldy" friends at school, and even though there were times when it was difficult to relate to them, they still respected my religion and didn't push me to do bad things. They didn't really care if I was a JW and were helpful, good people. What is interesting is that I felt like I could be more like myself, and more relaxed with them and with people at school than at the congregation.
My point being: it's more about finding the right people who are good to be around with. What the Watchtower does is use fear tactics; they demonize and highlight the bad on the other side to scare people, and when the people swallow those ideas, they avoid the others. It creates a separation, a barrier and a way of control.
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Standing on Street Corners, Counting Time - the Impotent Future of Preaching
by passwordprotected inyou see them all over the place now, 2 or 3 of them standing near a portable display of bible-based literature, chatting to each other.
counting time.. i've seen them in london, glasgow and cluj (romania).
the portable display is always the same.
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The arrangements they have is not to talk to people unless they come up and are interested. For anyone who has lots of questions, they are invited for a bible study and the two brothers "guarding" on the sides could talk to them or take them to the stand. They stands are only really to give out only the magazine and books. I don't really know how affective this is, though from the Kingdom Hall, they sometimes say that they give out a lot. Whenever I see the stands, I don't really see anyone coming around that much. This is coming from the US but I expect the arrangements to be the same everywhere.
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New Book. Intro essay
by Old Goat inposted by the authors on their blog http://truthhistory.blogspot.com/.
dr. de vienne tells me they're down to a final edit of the last chapter.
publication is in a matter of a very few weeks.
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Thanks for the info! I didn't know about this book until now. It looks good, I'll be looking forward to it
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Helping your Loved one correlate WT mind control by exposing OTHEr groups
by Jon Preston inive been watching "the following" lately and my wife watched a few episodes with me.
she couldnt fathom at first the depth that mind control or "destructive influence" can take you.
so in accordance with hassans "freedom of mind" i have decided that exposing other cults to my wife will help me help her to find correlations to the wt and hopefully lead her to the bite model.
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Watch this video, I think it would be good start to help some people see things a little differently. It's a young ex-Norman who discusess the BITE model, and there's a lot of ways you can relate it to the JWs. He only makes one mention of the JWs using this method so just skip that part in the beginning. Aside from that, he only talks of Mormans and Moonies.
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Unquestioning obedience
by Phizzy inthis has been demanded over the years by the wt.
it used to be mildly subtle the way the words were couched.. then they came out with, what they have repeated recently, that it is necessary to obey, even if you cannot understand the reasons, cannot understand why you are being asked to do something.. as a born in i knew nothing of it being a cult, and was only aware of the mind control in a foggy sort of way, accepting it as their way of trying to keep control.. but when i saw those words about unquestioning obedience, my blood ran cold, it then hit me that something was wrong, badly wrong.. how did you react ?.
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I think by making these statements, they're preparing for something big or some questionable idea in the future. When it comes to changing doctrines, the Watchtower always makes some sort of minor adjustments that add up throughout the years until it's different, although on some occasions it's a big leap. Once it's ingrained to obey without questioning, it's hook, line, and sinker for them
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No more circuit assemblies
by justmeok ini heard from a reliable source that there will be no more 2 day assemblies, but instead 2 one days each year.
anyone heard this yet?
supposed to start new service year.
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Could this be a sign of one of their cut backs on $$$? The good news is that now I won't have to sit 8 more hours there. I can only pay attention for so long before my mind wanders, and now that I know ttatt makes it more difficult. it's kind of ironic that they made a cut since just a while back there was a Watchtower study on the importance of assemblies and in an upcoming Kingdom Ministry, it keeps talking about the assembly. Anyway, once the congregations hear the news, they'll just accept it without really thinking about it, or just see it as a new arrangement that "our wonderful faithful and discreet slave" has provided.
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TV Ideas For JWNers. "Luther", "Dexter" "The Killings" "Braquo"-
by RottenRiley ini am looking for more ideas of interesting movies and gritty crime shows to watch.. .
the killings, wallander, luther, dexter, braquo (french (english subbed) german (berlin berlin), sherlock, george gently, inspector frost, inspector lewis, did i say "dexter (though the ending was a bummer :( ) "orange is the new black", "house of cards", "mad men".. .
can you add to my profile of movies and series i need to see?
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Tv shows: Orphan Black and Breaking Bad.
movies: Chinatown, Pyscho,
Tinker Tailor Soldier Spy, The Dark Knight,
Zero Dark Thirty, Inception
The Descendants, Skyfall
Rushmore, Moonrise Kingdom
Big Fish
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Will you make SACRIFICES for the kingdom? WT
by bruh2012 inpar 10 - "significant funds are needed to support kingdom activities.
each year tens of millions of dollars are spent caring for the expenses of traveling overseers, special pioneers and missionaries".. so the gb wants you to support their "kingdom interest", but can care less about the local congregation pioneers who for some struggle to make ends meet, who use their gas driving all around the territory putting wear and tear on their cars sometimes not getting gas money to take care of their expenses, let alone any repairs needed.
talking about highway robbery!.
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Not just that, I bet some of that money is used to pay off victims of child abuse cases, like the Candice Conti one. Where else are they going to pull funds to pay those large amounts of money? In LA county, and I think Orange County too, they are having members now pay for 72 new congregations they plan to build. This was mentioned a few months back. When the letter concerning the project was read, the elder reading it used this same article to convince people to donate.