A.proclaimer
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JW logo and symbolism
by Illuminated inthere's a recent thread regarding the jw indoctrination expressed on the net, particularly instagram.
from an outsider looking in, i noticed this when looking through jw instagram profiles.
it came off super cult-ish and robotic along with similar wording used as though everyone, male or female, is a stepford wife (watch the movie for those who haven't seen it).
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Every religion uses symbols to appeal to people and their emotions. Symbols mean something to people. It's also part of the new makeover in trying to become more modern and appeal to outsiders. They probably think that outsiders will wonder what JW.org is all about and search it online. -
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Illegal immigrants in the organization?
by silent ini had a thought today that might prove interesting.
i'm wondering if there are any illegal immigrants who are witnesses?
surely it would be a great position to be in as an illegal immigrant because you could play up your plight and prey on the sympathies of others within the congregation.
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I know that some illegals can't do certain things like go to bethel or do construction for them. But congregations accept them and work with them. They get privileges. Just this assembly, I heard that many weren't going to show up when they were told to go to San Diego (about 2 he's away and going down south) out of fear that immigration would stop them along the way. So it was thought that they would show up at the next assembly in Long beach (45 minutes) instead, even if it wasn't assigned to them.
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Overlap what???
by dugout injust out of the blue i asked my wife whos been a jw for some 30 odd years can she explain the overlapping doctrine.
she said to me she never heard of this and said she will have to look it up.
i thought oh s#^%!.
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A lot of members won't really know or be able to explain the overlap because it's simply never mentioned at the meetings. This new teaching was introduced once in 2010 and brought up recently just a few months ago in one article and in the new history book. Nobody ever talks about it or bothers to look deeper into it because it no longer holds the same importance it once did years ago. The generation of 1914 was a very important teaching in the past, and for members who lived during that period before 1995 when it was changed. When you look at old publications, it was talked about in beginner study books, watchtower/ awake articles, etc. but for newer generations it's hardly ever mentioned. And any new members or new recent born-ins will simply never know what the Generation of 1914 once meant unless they investigate and look into the past, or come across some website. As for the older ones, they probably will just accept the new explanation because it comes from the FDS or because they long forgot about that teaching since they stopped hearing about it.
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English to Spanish differences
by StarTrekAngel ini was wondering if someone here can guide me a bit.
i have been doing some research on wt publications, specifically those that have the key writtings regarding changing doctrine.
the problem is that i am native spanish speaker and i attend a spanish congregation.
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I have PDFs of the 1960's ones in spanish. Found it on the Spanish forumn
and it wasn't until April 1st of 1984 that the Spanish and English finally were synchronized.
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English to Spanish differences
by StarTrekAngel ini was wondering if someone here can guide me a bit.
i have been doing some research on wt publications, specifically those that have the key writtings regarding changing doctrine.
the problem is that i am native spanish speaker and i attend a spanish congregation.
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Here is the basic formula. It's not 100% accurate because some articles were put onto other dates. But for the most articles it will match up. I was working on an accurate match up, english to Spanish and vice versa and I have some years pretty much complete. Message me if you want me to send you what I have so far.
English to Spanish Watchtowers
January 1-------------1 de Marzo
January 15-----------15 de Junio
February 1------------1 de Julio
February 15----------15 de Julio
March1-----------------1 de Agosto
March 15--------------15 de Agosto
April 1-------------------1 de Septiembre
April 15-----------------15 de Abril (mesclado con el proximo año; mixed with the next year)
May 1-------------------15 de Septiembre
May 15------------------1 de Octubre
June1--------------------15 de Octubre
June 15------------------1 de Noviembre
July 1--------------------15 de Noviembre
July 15-------------------1 de Deciembre
August 1----------------15 de Deciembre
August 15---------------1 de Enero (proximo año/next year)
September 1-----------15 de Enero (proximo año/next year)
September 15---------1 de Febrero (proximo año/next year)
October 1---------------15 de Marzo (proximo año/next year)
October 15-------------1 de April (proximo año/next year)
November 1------------1 de Mayo (proximo año/next year)
November 15----------15 de Mayo (proximo año/next year)
December 1------------1 de Junio
December 15----------15 de Febrero (proximo año/next year)
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Tv.jw.org - Average Jdub reaction? I'm getting NOTHING but Silence!
by 4thgen inhello all, as you know, when jw tv was announced, our board went wild.
many comments, much speculation and alot of negative feedback on the quality, etc.
well, what has me concerned is that i have not heard a peep from any of my connections left in kingdom-land.
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Funny thing is I haven't heard anything either. I heard more commotion about the JW language app, but then again I do attend a foreign language congregation.
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TV.JW.Org - Streamed to KHs via the New Projectors
by passwordprotected ini read here recently that the khs are being instructed to buy and install projector systems.. now that we've seen the launch of of tv.jw.org we can fully expect public talks to - on a monthly basis at least - be replaced by content streamed from the site to the screens in khs.. .
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Ah! That could be a reason why the Kingdom Hall I go to got new flat screen tv's not long ago. The only thing it currently displays is the yearly bible text
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I agree with this theory and have thought something similar. "Bad GB" have a full on plan ready and more power. I do believe that the current GB does have a plan that is now being played out with all these changes. The internet has changed the game since information is so easy to spread and with numerous websites that challenge JW teachings, they are stepping up their game. Plus, the selling and buying new property, new logo, all well thought out. They're moving things in a new direction.
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Everyone asked to take their literature back to the KH?
by MrMonroe inmay be bullshit or just confusion, but here's a post at a facebook ex-jw page:.
"so last night i performed one of my occasional meeting attendances, and whilst watching the kids and planning my exit strategy in the event of a walking dead style zombie outbreak, i think i heard them read a letter saying that the brothers are now to destroy all old literature in their possession if it's in bad condition, or return it to the elders if it's in good condition, but you can no longer keep any old literature... hmmm".
anyone know anything about this letter?
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there was a letter read not long about the literature except it asked to return any extra literature in good condition back to with Kingdom Halls to use in field service and such. Nothing about destroying old literature, though they did say some of the books will be revised and update in the future.
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Debating JW's
by will brooks inhi,.
i'm new in this forum and it seems from a quick recce that jw's give this site a miss?
is there a site that jw's use - other than their official one which is restricted to active jw's?.
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Jwtalk is where all the JW's go but that site is like a fortress, heavily guarded and monitored against any negativity or criticism. You cant go onto certain sections until you've spent some time there with an account. I've seen it and sometimes people would write in their posts that they don't mean their comments to sound critical, because they're afraid of having their comment or post removed and such.