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  The Watchtower Says 1 In 4 Persons Likely To Have A Mental Illness!

  by minimus in

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  that's on their website....do you believe this?

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  (1 in 4 Americans) * (500 million guns) = Mental Illness.
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  The "J" Manuscripts - Greek Scriptures, New Testament

  by ithinkisee in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  is there somewhere on the web that goes into detail on the "j" manuscripts?

  i know there are a few that show how the society contradicts their own rule using jehovah, but i want more info on the history or background of the "j" manuscripts.

  i have looked around.

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  Go to Randy's freeminds site and search on "J Manuscripts" and you'll see much. Randy also has a few books for sale on the NWT use of "J" Manuscripts.
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  What was your breaking point?

  by soundbox_guy in

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  okay, i'm new as you all probably know, so my question may have been discussed several times in the past.

  i'm just curious as to when some of you came to the conclusion that enough was enough and that you didn't want to attend the meetings anymore or not be a jw.

  was it in field service, at home, at the hall?

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  I was studying at the Harvard Divinity Library (servants and pioneers shouldn't do that) the history of prohetic interpretation in the Church Fathers and everything fell apart. Suddenly the 3 stooges (Russell, Rutherford, and Fred Franz) were no longer God's mouthpiece anymore than Tertullian (in his day) or Origen. These men were full of bullcrap and I was a dupe. The house of cards fell apart and I was sitting at a desk in front of stacks of books and realized I knew NOTHING anymore, closed up the volume I was reading, shelved the books, and went drinking (after 5 years of abstenance) - a few days later I knew even less. "Where was the brother for field service arangements?" Drunk in Harvard Yard.
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  Recently Disfellowshipped

  by dfd in

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  i having been "lurking" around here for about a month--right when i was disfellowshipped actually.

  in a year long relationship--broke up-five months later had a bout of conscience and told on myself.

  myself and my ex are disfellowshipped and now most of my former group of "friends" are getting in trouble.

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  Hi DFD-

  Things will start to look up - enjoy the threads on the board and best of wishes.

  peace and blessings
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  Do you have one favorite place on earth?

  by AK - Jeff in

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  i mean a specific location that you would go to time and again to just sit and look and enjoy?

  or a favorite vacation destination?.

  i love the cascade mountains as example.

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  The jungles of Southern Belize and the Greek island of Crete.
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  Not having to celebrate holidays was actually pretty cool

  by IronGland in

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  now that i'm a non jw i'm expected to celebrate holidays by my gf, family etc.

  there's way too many and it gets to be a pain.

  valentines,easter,memorial day mothers day,fathers day, 4th of july, thanksgiving, halloween, christmas(bleh!

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  When I "returned to my vomit" and left the borg I decided to celebrate at least 3 days a year:

  1) April Fools

  2) Halloween

  3) Thanksgiving

  The rest is hit or miss.
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  Are Bethelites more likely to leave the JWs than others?

  by Gill in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  have you any experience of families whose sons have gone off to bethel and then decided to not have any more contact with their family and jws at all very soon after returning?.

  i ask this question because i know of two families where this has been the case.. the first family had three sons who one after the other went to the london bether to 'serve' within a couple of years of eachother.. after three years there all three returned home completely different people.

  they then left home, left dub land, two married non jws and another lives with his girlfriend.

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  I was in a congo outside of Boston where the brethren had a sendoff for a brother to go to Bethel. He returned a few years later with a wife (a no-no) from a Queens congo. When he returned he was never the same. Bethel elder and at the local congo didn't want to be a servant, stopped doing field circus, and just shut down. Now I understand what happend to Brother W. Totally shut down and refused to speak to anyone except his wife.

  sweet tee - Thanks for bringing back that memory.
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  List Your Favorite Foreign (non-American) Films Here!

  by Funchback in

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  2. entertainment

  i hope this thread receives a lot of responses.

  not because i am egotistical.

  heck, really, i like any sort of film.

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  I keep going back to Kurosawa's 'Seven Samurai'.
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  Read any good books lately?

  by chrissy in

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  2. friends

  so, i will be down and out for awhile after a little surgery this week and i am trying to get a few books to keep myself amused and i am looking for suggestions on something you may have read recently and enjoyed.

  i prefer non-fiction, but will consider reading anything highly recommended, as long as it contains at least a spark of truth.

  well, i will recommend a book to you alla few days ago, i finished reading into the wild by jon krakauera biographical story about a young man who, after graduating college, got rid of all of his belongings and hitch-hiked across the country in search of jack london-esque adventures.

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  Read a wonderful book a few weeks ago, "Cuban Prospect" about a Cuban phenom baseball pitcher who is being "shipped" out of Cuba to play in the BIG leagues. Great tale, as well as a wonderful picture of current Cuban life from a "Yankee's" point of view. Reads smooth, and this is his first novel.
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  Script for the Drama "Beware of Rebellious Talk!"

  by Bonnie_Clyde in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i just spent 20 minutes typing a very interesting post from a script of the bible drama given as a dc several years ago of how the wt applies the korah, dathan and abiram account to anyone who speaks in any way against the watchtower, the organization, or the faithful and discreet slave.

  the modern day characters are brother loyal, brother faithful and brother doubter.

  at the end the families of dathan and abiram and lined up in opposition and then the screams begin and the opposers fall backward as if they have swallowed up by the earthquake.

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  Blondie-

  Maybe next year's drama will have apostates brought back into the camp and forgiven if they .... They'll have New Light at the DC and from a January series of 4 WT articles on the Prodigal Son. Then we'll be like Korah - in Sheol.