By the way, how do you cut and paste quotes on this forum? I have tried to do it the way I do it on another forum, but it does not work on this one.
reaper
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Witnesses LOVE Christmas Lights!
by gumby ini don't know how publishers in your neck of the woods veiws christmas lights......but all the ones i've been around since being born into this religion........loves to see all the lights.
we even used to get a map in the paper that showed where those lived with huge decorations and go see them.
some entire blocks would get together and do all their yards and we witnesses would drive around to see it all.
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Witnesses LOVE Christmas Lights!
by gumby ini don't know how publishers in your neck of the woods veiws christmas lights......but all the ones i've been around since being born into this religion........loves to see all the lights.
we even used to get a map in the paper that showed where those lived with huge decorations and go see them.
some entire blocks would get together and do all their yards and we witnesses would drive around to see it all.
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reaper
Satanus, You sound a very nice person to me. Lost but very nice. My wife and I have studies Chinese Medicine, we know about Yin & Yang and we also know all about the Magnetic Energies of this Earth called Shumann Waves. Although we were JWs we studied Acupuncture and other Energetic Therapies such as Shiatsu and AcuMagnetic Therapy. My wife still practices Electro-Acupuncture, even though a number of Christians think its from the Devil. We do not, as the Human Body has energy channels running right through it.
When we got out of the Borg, we went to a forest every Sunday and prayed to the Universal Consciousness and Yahweh and Yeshua. We asked him if there was good in ALL religions. We started hugging tree's and could feel the Yin or Yang energy going through them. All nature is at one with the Universal Creator.
We also know about different dimensions. Now that we know the real Yeshua, he has taught us that so much about him and his Father. We are so puny that we cannot understand the various dimensions that God has created, and that we are living out of sinc with the PERFECT dimension.
Everything is possible with God, and its not just superstition. You are CRYING inside, because you do not know who the Real God is. We have seen miracles happen, since being Born Again Christians, and we know that Yeshua is alive and LOVING his people.
By the way Satanus, IDOLATORY is WORSHIP OF AN INANIMATE OBJECT. We do not bow down to or give LIGHTS any credence any more than the Israelites gave too the 7 Lampstands.
Jesus spoke about hiding lights under baskets, he also spoke about the 10 virgins having oil for their lamps. So get real, and stop trying to button us down to a guilt trip. WE LEFT ALL OF THAT CRAP WHEN WE LEFT THE BORG.
I am not going to debate with you about Witchcraft or Wicca etc, as they are just the same as Freemasonry, DEMONIC and ensnare people into false dogma rules and rituals. We are now FREE MEN AND WOMEN in JESUS CHRIST.
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Comments You Will Not Hear at the 12-25-05 WT Study (Hosea-Reap)
by blondie inhow can we walk with god?
that will help us to walk with god.
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reaper
I only read a couple of the paragraphs, and it was starting to get the Demonic Oppression affect me again. Every time a try to read their stuff, I get the same awful feeling of contamination. The EVIL is designed into the Watchtower Publications, and the effects that it gives off are death dealing.
I just heard a few days ago, that another JW has committed suicide, no wonder with all of that pressure they put on people. I now know of 5 JWs who killed themslves. One unfortunately I studied with and got him involved. He married the wrong woman and regreted it, but could not get out of it and killed himself.
They twist everything the scriptures say. We love our God and we love his Son who gave his life for us. We can learn all we NEED TO KNOW without their garbage.
I just wonder what all the Christians did before Russell and Rutherfraud distorted Gods word?????????
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Witnesses LOVE Christmas Lights!
by gumby ini don't know how publishers in your neck of the woods veiws christmas lights......but all the ones i've been around since being born into this religion........loves to see all the lights.
we even used to get a map in the paper that showed where those lived with huge decorations and go see them.
some entire blocks would get together and do all their yards and we witnesses would drive around to see it all.
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reaper
It depends on how you view paganism. We have now put up lights for the past 4 years after getting out of the Borg we were in for 50 years. We see it is celebrating the LIGHT OF THE WORLD Jesus Christ, and we love the lights in our dark Norhern Hemisphere Winter. We are not bothered what Pagan connecions are claimed to be involved, but we DO NOT WORSHIP Pagan gods at that time or at any time, and thats what it is all about about, WORSHIP of false gods. We worship the God who we cannot see, the Lord of the Bible.
Paul said in Colossians 2:16 That we should not judge each oter as the celebration of a FULL MOON or a FESTIVAL or a SABBATH. Paul was saying that a Christain could celebrate those things if his conscience allowed him too. FULL MOONS are celebrated by Pagans, but were also celebrated by the Jews.
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QUOTES WEBSITE - PLEASE READ
by Kristofer ini am brand new to this site and i am writing this for anyone that cares about the website that was shut down by the wtbs.
i thought it was one of the best sites i have ever come across and now it is no longer available.
last night i spent 3 hours copying most of it's info on my hard-drive into separate word documents and you can too!
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reaper
It looks like they have shut the site down. I did what you said, but when I clicked on the subjects it said NOT FOUND. So it looks like the Gestapo has got its way again. I would have been good if the Author of the site, could relaunch it and even get loads of other clones of it set up all over the place.
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QUOTES WEBSITE - PLEASE READ
by Kristofer ini am brand new to this site and i am writing this for anyone that cares about the website that was shut down by the wtbs.
i thought it was one of the best sites i have ever come across and now it is no longer available.
last night i spent 3 hours copying most of it's info on my hard-drive into separate word documents and you can too!
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reaper
Hi Christofer
If you get the chance, ask her who is her Mediator. That really gets at a JW, if you tell them that Jesus Christ is NOT their Mediator according to the Society.
Its all on the site you mentioned. Look at my testimony on www.witforjesus.org and you will find a lot more help on dealing with doctrinal issues.
My name is Dave Hall by the way.
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Why do churches still make me panic ?
by Aiesha Harley ini'm really glad i've found this site a week ago.
reading some of the stories and comments on here has really helped.
there are so many out there who's lives have been ruined by the so-called truth.. i was brought up in the truth as an elders daughter, youngest of 5, a brother and sister had been disfellowshiped, other brother had left as a teenager and my other sister is still sitting on the fence aged 40 going on 15, if she'd made a decision instead of sitting on the fence i'm convinced she wouldn't be the alcoholic mess she is today!
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reaper
Hi, I was raised a Jw from 4 years of age and my wife was born into it. We left in 2001 after I had 49 years in it and my wife had 52 years in it. My wife HATED Churches and thought that Jehovah would destroy them at Armageddon. I served as an Elder for a number of years, and my Dad was one of the old type Congregation Servants, and even set up a Congregation in the 1950s. So we know what CONTROL and MIND GAMES are all about.
When we left the Cult, my wife still thought it was the truth, and every time I told her about stuff I had read on the internet, she would SCREAM at me, that I was getting involved with APOSATE thinking.
After 18 months of praying and searching, I decided to go to a Church one Sunday morning, I had heard that a couple of exJW studies were going there, so I thought it might be OK.
When I got up early on the Sunday in November 2002 my wife asked where I was going, so I told her that I was going to visit a freind, to which she replied NO YOU ARE NOT YOU ARE GOING TO A CHURCH, and then amazingly she said she did not mind me going.
When I walked in the old building with all its Gothic Arches, Alter area etc I felt very strange. There was a big banner with a cross on it, which said HE IS RISEN.
A lady said HELLO, and then I said I shouldn't be here as I was a JW for 49 years. Then another lady said hello, and I said the very same thing. I then sat gingerly half way down the Church and then the music started. Thankfully the Pastor DID NOT HAVE A DOG COLLAR ON as I would probably have walked out. The Church is a free non denominational Church, and is NOT AT ALL FORMAL in fact the opposite.
When they were singing the lovely songs, and worshipping God how I always thought he should be worshipped, it resonated with my very being. I realised that I had found my spiritual home.
My wife was pleased for me, but she said YOU WILL NEVER GET ME INTO THE CHURCH. That very week she was rushed into hospital with acute apendicitis, and when I told the Christians at the Church, they all prayed for her swift recovery. I could not believe how much these people cared for my wife. In fact she had not been shown that amount of love as a JW. After about 2 weeks I gave my life to the Lord at a house group and 2 weeks after that my dear wife gave her life to the Lord as well. We were both baptised in that same Church in May 2003.
My wife loves going to that Church now, and she detests the dark Satanic Kingdom Halls. The Lord has set us both free, but in my wifes case, she will tell anyone that the CONCRETE BLOCKS HAVE BEEN REMOVED from her shoulders.
Read my testimony on www.witforjesus.org
Both of our daughters have also come to the Lord and our oldest daughter who is 37 has recently been diagnosed with Lung Lymphoma, but the Christians are praying with her all the time, and the cancer has not spread anywhere else and she is safe with Jesus Christ now.
We are so thankful that our Lord has delivered us from tyranny.
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Have JW's condemned their people to death?
by sinis inthis was touched on in another thread but after reading the requirements of the new covenant, i believe since the witnesses do not partake they have no hope.
the mosiac law was a contract between jehovah and the isrealites.
if they obeyed fine, if not, they broke there end of the bargain.
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reaper
I totally agree with this thread. My wife runs a Therapy Clinic and has 2 JWs as patients (they come even though they know who we are). Today she stuck her neck out and told them that Jesus was NOT their Mediator. The husband got all defensive, but the wife said she would check up on it. My wife told them that the Society says it, not so called Apostates.
I really believe that this one doctrine is the one that can rock the boat of the average JW, because they just do not know about it. When I was an Elder back in the mid 80s I actually asked a prayer through OUR Mediator Jesus Christ, and was taken to task by another Elder over it. That did not sit well with me, but it still took a number of years for us to get out. Thankfully we now know our Lord and Savior Yeshua our King. I wanted to partake of the emblems for years. Now we do as BA Christians.
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WTBS article prove 587/586 BC fall of Babylon
by crazies inlabashi-marduk: (9 months) succeeded by nabonidus
(insight volume 1 p.453 chronology; watchtower 1965 january 1 p.29)
evil-merodach: 560 bce562 bce (2 years)
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reaper
I have only just found this thread, and have not got time to read all of the posts on this subject, but since I have left the Cult, I have done a lot of my own research into this chronology and have found that Nebuchanezzer was not even King until 604 BC, so there is no way he could have destroyed Jerusalem in 607 BC. However the Davidic Kingship ENDED in 604 because Pharaoh Necho removed the legitimate King and replaced him with a false King who was under his command.
So the count of the 2520 started from 604 and ended in 1917 whicb was the very year that Jerusalem was liberated from the Turks without a fight, by General Allenby, whose name in Turkish just happens to be prophet of Allah. The Turks were told to only surrender the City to a prophet of Allah. The year 1917 was the year 1335 in the Islamic calender and is mentioned in Daniel 12 as 1335 days. The prophecies relating to 604-1917 fit the historical facts far better than 1914 does. And after all, the appointed times of the Nations related to JERUSALEM not some fanciful WT interpretation.
The WT do not want to face facts, any more than the Mormons do over the supposed Lamenities, Nephities etc (Native American Indians) being descendants of the Jews. The DNA blows it out of the water.
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Living proof: Elders are not spirit appointed
by IP_SEC inwitnesses say that elders are appointed by holy spirit.
the bible is the product of hs and when the body prays and uses the bibles qualifications for older men in the context of the perspective candidate hs is involved in his approval or disapproval.
then when the co passes the recommendation on the gb (or who ever actually makes the decision) these spirit appointed men are influenced by hs.. all well and good, the only problem is, it does not work.
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reaper
If its any comfort Honesty, my wife had a vison about 2 years ago, it was a big stone watchtower up on a hill, and all of a sudden cracks started appearing in it. She said a bright light from heaven was shinning into the top of it, and then stones were being loosened from the walls and started rolling down the hill. She was also told that the Lord would send them running to us, and that we would be a beacon to them.
This is starting to happen now. My wifes best friend who actually left the borg with her husband 30 years ago, has now started phoning us up, because she is concerned for her aged parents who are still in the borg. She met them today for lunch, and they told her that one of the 'brothers' had committed suicide. We knew the family, and knew his sister very well.
So we now know 5 people who killed themselves because of that religion. The friend started to talk to her parents about what I had told her about the WT and she got the usual response 'Apostate Lies' to which she replied, well Dave (thats me) would say that your Society are the Apostates. She then said to her Dad 'But Chris and Dave still LOVE YOU' and why should I believe that you are telling the truth any more than Dave?
So after 30 years Joy (thats her name) has at long last stood up to her Mum & Dad. She has been living with Guilt and Fear ever since they left all those years ago. The WT actually CURSE people and cause them all sorts of problems even when they leave unless they get those curses broken in the name of Jesus precious shed blood.