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  Voting Bush out

  by Jayson in

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  what is the best campaign stratagy to win against him?

  be serious this is to win the minds of american voters not to polerize them against you.

  otherwise it's a plug for him.. i think that the one real weakness is unemployment in america.

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  Vanant

  Has anyone ever heard of Dennis Kucinich? I'm a newbie to politics (just started an introductory Poli Sci class 3 weeks ago), but his platform seems the most attractive to me (though the part about banning weapons in outer space seems like tilting at windmills at this point, imo) . . . I know he's a longshot for election, though, since most people disagree with progressives . . .
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  Retractions in the Watchtower

  by Elsewhere in

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  every magazine, newspaper or other periodical i have ever read would from time to time print a retraction to correct mistakes in past articles.

  any reputable publishing house does this.. has anyone ever seen a retraction printed in the watchtower, awake, or any other wts publication?.

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  Vanant

  heathen, most of the countries in East Asia traditionally use lunar (actually, lunisolar) calendars taken from the Chinese. Their new year starts between Jan 21 and Feb 21. This kind of calendar has 12 months like the Gregorian solar calendar does, but is a few days shorter, and uses leap months every few years to make up the missing days. In order to interact with the West, those countries now primarily use the Gregorian calendar, but still use the lunar calendar to keep track of traditional festivals and such. I think almost all countries in the world now are forced to use the Gregorian calendar if they want to do business outside of their own region.
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  I AM MAD AS HELL ... I CAN'T TAKE IT ANYMORE !!!

  by Amazing in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  this has to stop !

  ... it took 15 minutes just to log on ... yes, the pop-up ads are getting so numberous i can't function, or make posts easily ...there are several pop-ups for a bigger penis - add 3" or more ... yeah, right, size matters.get bigger breasts ... like i need that at age 52 ... male ... mmmm use viagra ... right ... and with a 17" penis, it will go places that no man has gone before.buy insurance ... sure ... for what?

  i am uninsurable.

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  Vanant

  As far as spyware killers go, in addition to AdAware, there's also Spybot. And if you hate popups but don't want to use a program additional to your web browser, there is a browser called Mozilla that has an option to block popups. (If some websites require popups for navigation, you can specify them to be excluded from the no-popups rule.) I've been using it for almost a year and haven't seen a single popup the whole time. :) The only downside to Mozilla is that there are certain features on some websites that don't show up correctly, like the emoticons on this site (you would have to link to the images directly, I suppose, instead of letting the site do it for you...).
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  Shunning your Children

  by missylissy in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i dont know if im putting this in the rite place.... .

  when a young jw teen ( 13-16) disassociates themselves, or is disfellowshipped, will the parents kick them out of the house?

  or are they required to let them stay?

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  Vanant

  missylissy, from what I've seen in the congregations I've attended, it really depends on the family . . . in the Organization book, I think it says that families can still have contact with their DA'd/DF'd children, so they don't have to kick them out, but spiritual things can't be discussed (the same goes for children who are unbaptized publishers, if I'm remembering correctly). Common thought in JW culture, though, seems to be that DA/DF'd people are more or less dead to their families. But while some families cut off ties completely, others have gone on business as usual. I noticed that the Spanish-language congs seemed to be less strict on this than the English-language ones . . . Since it was just my own experience, I don't know how accurate this perception is. I've always thought of it as being due to cultural differences; I think the concept of the extended family is given higher reverence in Hispanic culture than in Anglophone culture, with its emphasis on the individual.

  Anyway, it really just depends on the person. Like with my mother's family, where most of my aunts and uncles DA'd themselves young, after being raised JW . . . the family members who are still JW, such as my mother, have normal relations with the ones who left. But people like my father think DA/DF'd people aren't to be associated with at all, so he tries to restrict our contact with my mom's family. People like him wouldn't hesitate to throw their own children out of the house for leaving the organization. So I have to make thorough preparations before I DA myself.
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  Coming Out ?

  by johnathanseagull in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  don't you sometimes feel like "coming out" on this board..... as in my name is blah blah and i was in this cong etc etc.

  i know some who have done so here.............it's not that i'm embarrassed about giving my details or letting people know here........the only thing that stops me is ...............ahhh f**k it.

  jgull.

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  Vanant

  SisterLiz . . . what corny names your congregations had. :O The Spanish-language congs here tend to be named after preexisting places . . . I guess it helps that most places in California already have Spanish names. But since I think the congs here are named by non-Spanish-speakers, there are some weird ones, like "La Puente" . . . anyway, I'm surprised there are so many Spanish speakers in Montreal. Are they mainly from any one country/region, like Mexico, the Caribbean, South America, etc?

  I would like to come out myself, but since my living situation is still a little precarious now, I can't yet...
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  Release regarding Father's Touch short film....

  by morrisamb in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  fathers touch the film.

  this 3 minute and 30 second short film will explore the haunting images found within donald dhaenes writing.

  telling a complete story in flashbacks, real time images, and real time action.. .

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  Vanant

  morrisamb, this is in Spanish. Here is my translation.

  The Watchtower is the Beast of Rev. 13:11-18!

  The WT, founded in the USA, started as a small group of Bible students, and is now a powerful international organization. Through their publications, they declare themselves to be the Prophet of God. If we support the WT, we are supporting the Great Power. (Rev. 13:11-15)

  It binds people of all the nations through the oath that all wishing to become Jehovah's Witnesses respond with two "yes"s in the ceremony preceeding baptism. (Rev. 13:16a)

  It controls the thoughts (mark on the forehead) and the actions (mark on the hand) of millions of people. (Rev. 13:16b)

  It makes its members buy and sell its publications, which mostly carry the name of the organization (the number of his name). (Rev. 13:17)

  Watchtower is an esoteric symbol used by the Rosicrucians, Masons, and other occult groups, and is a filthy thing. (Rev. 13:18)

  The false prophecies related to the dates 1874, 1914, 1918, 1925, 1975 denounce it as a False Prophet. (Deu. 18:22, Rev. 16:13, 19:20)

  Don't support it! Leave her!
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  Would you?

  by donkey in

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  2. friends

  scenario 1: if you could guarantee that you would not get caught would you steal a million dollars?.

  scenario 2: if you could guarantee that you would not get caught would you steal a million dollars from the wtbs?.

  scenario 3: if you could guarantee that you would not get caught would you steal a million dollars from a bank?.

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  Vanant

  I wouldn't consider doing 3 or 4. 2, now, that's a toughie...

  Scenario 2: If you could guarantee that you would not get caught would you steal a million dollars from the WTBS?

  This is really tempting, because the WTBS would otherwise be using this money in enslaving people . . . normally, theft goes against my moral code, but in this case I think I would do it, and I would donate the money to charity.
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  Ernest Ricketts ... DISFELLOWSHIPPED

  by RR in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  for those of you who know ... or know of ernie ricketts, he was disfellowshipped a weerk ago, a long time prominent jehovah's witness, who represented the watchtower in jersey city, he was the care taker of the stanley theater.

  there are a few post in the archivs that make mention of him.

  i knew him personally, from what i was able to gather, the society wanted to get rid of him, apparently as someone told me "he was too black for the society," so they found a 17 year old "sin" and used that to get rid of him.

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  Vanant

  JT wrote:

  sometimes we would Pipe the OHIO PLAYERS. CAMEO, CON FUNK SHUN, LUTHER VAN DROSS THRU THE assembly hall sound system at night--yes we were wicked

  Oh my gosh, you actually did that? Whenever I went to the circuit assembly, I would always daydream about something like that happening . . . I hope someday, if the WT ever goes away, those huge assembly halls are converted into dance halls . . . :DD
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  Witness sayings

  by Teela in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  as i was growing up in the troof.

  there were sayings used over and over again to control my behaviour.

  the biblical on bad associations spoil useful habits and another on just because everyone else does it doesnt mean you have to do it to, would you jump off a cliff just because other people do what were the sayings that bugged you?

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  Vanant

  I've heard all of these phrases multiple times, and I wasn't even in an English-language congregation most of my life . . . It's creepy how all dubs seem to talk exactly the same no matter what language they speak or where they are . . .
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  Pulled out of Sex Ed classes

  by Nosferatu in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  for those of you who had a jw childhood, were you pulled out of sex education classes?

  did it bother your conscience if school surprised you with one?

  after being deprived from sex knowledge and since the society doesn't make diagrams, how did you learn about it?

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  Vanant

  I was pulled out of school altogether and put into homeschooling around 5th/6th grade, so I didn't have to deal with sex ed. Even if I had stayed in traditional school, my mom swore that she would get a waiver to take me out of sex ed . . . At any rate, since both my parents worked, I was dropped off at the library a lot as an elementary schooler, and I got my sex education there. :) Not that I would read books intentionally for the sexy stuff...but reading the vague, romance-novel-like sex scenes in the sci fi/fantasy novels I liked was still much more informative than anything my parents had ever told me. I was also lucky enough to be allowed to have a little handheld radio in my bedroom, and I would listen to the radio all day, and also late at night when they had racier talk radio... (Loveline's still my favorite show. :D)