Posts by baldeagle

When I first logged on today and began reading this thread’s comments on all the talk titles for this summer’s convention, I thought, “Am I being punked?” I know some of you posters have a great sense of humor and can be creative & comical regarding WTS information. My initial reaction was these titles are a mix between genuine subjects, as well as some crazy bizarre sounding ones just for a joke!

I then went to jw.org to check and found out that the talks were all real subjects!!

Over the last 8-10 years it seems anything is possible and can be made into a talk. This will be year number 5 that I’ve missed. Good to know how crazy this religion has become.

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A contribution from one of the members!

by Atlantis in

a contribution from one of the members who doesn't get to post very often.. ... .......... ........................ ......... ..........atlantis

baldeagle

Going down memory lane. What a sad, pathetic religion this has been. It’s hard to believe that it has actually gotten worse. Were those maybe the good old days?

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Why is it so hard to deconvert the JDubs?

by alonein321 in

i was watching this q & a by peter boghossian (autor of the book a manual for creating atheists) on youtube:.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zksbmdcczvu .

around 17:15 min, he explains that there are difficulty levels when it comes to religions in aplying these techniques.

baldeagle

Data-Dog and Island Man you're both bang on! Good observations and comments made by all.

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What was the "logical straw" that broke your camel's back?

by Pacopoolio in

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i had a bunch of tiny little nags that always bothered me about the bible/god/etc.

that eventually led to me drifting away, but this was my personal, singular issue that no one could address.

i think i mentioned it before here, but, for summation again:.

baldeagle

Everything already mentioned so far. Also this subject.

According to COC by Ray Franz the GB was asked by many branch overseers in 1978 to reconsider their stand and allow our young brothers to participate in civilian service (non-military) and avoid going to jail. The GB read these letters and voted NO civilian or alternative service would be allowed. (Jesus Had Spoken)

Fast forward 18 years later in the WT May 1, 1996 pp. 19-20, the Lord apparently had a change of heart and directed the GB to make “civilian service” a personal choice.

Two years later in 1998 the ever so clever and self-righteous GB actually blamed the brothers themselves for having “suffered needlessly.”

WT August 15, 1998 p. 17 Feelings of Having Suffered Needlessly

6 In the past, some Witnesses have suffered for refusing to share in an activity that their conscience now might permit. For example, this might have been their choice years ago as to certain types of civilian service. A brother might now feel that he could conscientiously perform such without overstepping his Christian neutrality regarding the present system of things.

7 Was it unrighteous on Jehovah’s part to allow him to suffer for rejecting what he now might do without consequences? Most who have had that experience would not think so. Rather, they rejoice that they had the opportunity of demonstrating publicly and clearly that they were determined to be firm on the issue of universal sovereignty. (Compare Job 27:5.) What reason could anyone have to regret having followed his conscience in taking a firm stand for Jehovah? By loyally upholding Christian principles as they understood them or by responding to the proddings of conscience, they proved worthy of Jehovah’s friendship. Certainly, it is wise to avoid a course that would disturb one’s conscience or that would likely cause others to be stumbled. We can think in this regard of the example that the apostle Paul set. 1 Corinthians 8:12, 13; 10:31-33.

What a crock of........

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Israel National News reports a most amazing story about JWs

by AndersonsInfo in

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http://www.israelnationalnews.com/news/flash.aspx/288677#.ux9165ao7l9.

court rejects missionary lawsuit against netanya schools for voiding leasethe tel aviv magistrates court has rejected a claim by a missionary group, saying that the school they had been renting space in unlawfully voided their contract , and asking the court to instruct the school to pay nis 108,000 in compensation and mental anguish, as well as legal expenses.. it began when a missionary group, via a non-profit organization called "mitzpe l'yisrael", rented space at the raziel school in netanya to conduct daily afternoon activities.

shortly after signing the rental agreement , the school authorities discovered that the group was, in reality, the notorious missionary sect of "jehovah's witnesses".

baldeagle

Thanks for posting this. Barbara.

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CO's & DO's age 70+ to be laid off on 9/1/14

by williamhconley in

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in a private conversation with a c.o.

friend from north carolina, he told me yesterday that they just got a letter that all traveling overseers (do's & co's) age 70 & up are going to be laid off on 09/01/2014.

they will be asssigned to local congregations and further details are pending.. .

baldeagle

JustVisting - “That will be a bitter pill to swallow for these older ones and their wives. There will no doubt be some collateral damage in the form of awakened legacy members.”

I’m wondering if anyone can eventually get a copy of this letter and the information and post it here for verification. I’m thinking this will “ruffle some feathers” even among your die hard brothers and sisters in the congregation. Many are still not happy about the cutbacks that happened at Brooklyn, with the Bethel family years ago. I personally know of couples let go at the Canadian branch approximately 7-8 years ago.

One couple had been there 25+ years; they were highly regarded and exemplary examples in the Bethel family. They were quietly nudged out and “returned to the field” in their late 40’s. The common denominator for many Bethel layoffs was approximately 25 or more years of service, meaning you were close to 50 years of age. That’s around the time most of us experience negative changes in our bodies and personal health.

Whether you love them or not CO’s have a pretty hard lifestyle overall, changing congregations each week is not easy. They also have to participate in the FS taking and arranging groups. They have to listen to all the grumbling and other crap from BOE’s etc. They also have to constantly please their “masters” the WTS or else. I never envied their jobs. That’s why I think it will not sit well with the “true believers” in the KH.

We all have a natural fear of losing our jobs and being out of work whether a JW or not. This fear increases the older we are. Now to cut a man loose based on his age is just wrong, especially in this supposed religion chosen by the Lord. I still know many CO’s & DO’s over 70 that are active, bright, and do the best they can. To dump a person (who has not committed a wrongdoing, or become rebellious) while giving up their young productive years to serve an organization, will resonate poorly among JW’s.

It will really start to focus on the GB as being heartless and mean-spirited. The brothers “still-in” are already shaking their heads over the crazy changes recently!

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Hardcore JW Friend Predicts the End of the Organization within 10 years.

by kneehighmiah in

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had a conversation with an aspiring elder.

he said the end must be close because people are so discouraged that the organization can't last more than 10 years.

this is before we received the please come to the international convention letter.

baldeagle

The dumbed down members will have their turn to "reach out" and carry this broken religion forward. It will become the "new normal."

It will be around for quite a while. There is more money stored up that has not even been touched!! Also many still want some organizational title,

even if it's not the same quality individuals as decades gone by. The WTS will take and work with what they can get, in order to survive!!

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Atlanta International Convention Hotels Not Being Filled Up!

by James Jackson in

this week our kh devoted the whole service meeting to the upcoming international convention in atlanta.

they read a 5 page letter from the branch which stated basically that we should feel priviledged to be invited to this convention.. however, many are not using the "recomended lodging list", "many hotels still have plenty of rooms available", "we must be loyal to this arrangement", (or the organization will not get their comp rooms)..

baldeagle

Looks good on them!