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  "New Book" God's Kingdom Rules

  by booker-t in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i heard that on sat the jws released a new book at the convention god's kingdom rules.

  is it a verse by verse of ezekiel or daniel?

  does it mention the "overlapping generation"?

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  baldeagle

  Thanks, wannabefree, much appreciated.
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  Local Needs 07/08/2014

  by piztjw in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i don't know whether i should laugh, or run screaming into the night.. tonights "local needs" was titled "are you following 'the slave' "?.

  the theme scripture was 1 peter 2: 21. it was applied that by following jesus steps closely we would then be able to keep up with 'the slave'.

  now i don't know about others, but if i were to follow one person and that meant to keep up with someone else, it would mean that the person i was following was following the other person.

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  How totally naïve this GB has become. Their obsession with their website has taken me truly by surprise. Years ago the CO’s were telling us (elders/ms) of the incredible immeasurable damage the internet was having on congregation members. He would remind us of the many faithful longtime elders that had abandoned their families by simply stumbling upon chatrooms and hooking up with someone else. Every visit he would tell us of the huge number of elders and servants deleted by viewing internet pornography. He even told a room of approx. 20 men that if we were viewing pornography, we should do the right & honorable thing confess and step down. Really how do these guys think this will play out?

  Get millions of JW’s and their teenage children all surfing the Web and this will not have a happy ending for the WTS. All the information and incredibly foolish statements made over the last 100+ years is so readily available 24 hours a day. You can access it in the privacy of your own home, car, park, coffee shop, anywhere!! The flow of information has always been tightly guarded, locked down and essentially unavailable. Not anymore!!!

  The internet is the electronic; “Wild Wild West” and JW’s are a curious bunch.

  

  We’ve come a long way since this August 15, 2011 Watchtower.

  The WTS has gone “all in” regarding the “evil” Internet.
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  BOE * 2014-05-01 Witnessing in public places

  by WatchTower87 in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  to all bodies of elders.

  the public witnessing supplies form (s-80) is also available at the forms link.

  the congregation secretary should arrange for this letter to be retained in the congregation permanent file of policy letters.

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  “If a small administrative fee is needed in order to acquire space in a public area, it is to be paid by the individual publisher, not the congregation. Publishers should carefully review any such applications to see what responsibility they are taking upon themselves with respect to liability.”

  So a pioneer or publisher who generally have menial or low end paying jobs have to in addition to losing a day’s work, and gas up their cars, also pay the “small administrative fee” if required from their own income. How can this religion even get anyone interested anymore, in making all these sacrifices still? What the heck was I thinking over the last 40 years? What an embarrassing, petty, cheap religion this has become!!!
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  Your final WTF? Moment!

  by restrangled in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  it was a long time coming for me.....when i read about the extened generations, after being raised on1914 being the be all end all, and millions would never die....that was the end.

  i was part of the 1975 fiasco, the 6 month only truth book studies, suffered through a disifellowshipping and their version of a rewind.

  i finally am free and hope others can eventually look in instead of inside looking out!

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  baldeagle

  All of you have so eloquently listed so many of my personal feelings and WTF moments that I experienced or meditated on throughout the years. One of mine was when I became an elder back in the early 1990’s. I soon discovered after going to all the many elder’s meetings during the mid-week meetings that lasted till 10 pm, that the subjects we discussed were mostly lame and petty.

  I was embarrassed and naive to have imagined all through the years (before I became an elder) that those men in the congregation library were making all these world renowned decisions. The truth is I soon learned from experience, most of what we discussed was not vital, earth shattering or very intellectual. I quickly learned there was no guidance from God’s spirit. Just a bunch of guys, some very genuine and sincere, guessing at things and using their own imperfect reasoning’s and biases.

  But as many have already said the “generation” teaching change in 1995 was a biggie. Then 13 years later in 2008 we went from the worst, “wicked and crooked” people to the very best the “anointed.” That “anointed” idea only lasted a mere two years when it suddenly changed again in 2010 to the “overlapping” new light.

  I’ve said to my staunch JW wife & others, “Why wouldn’t Jesus just tell his chosen elite F&DS, in 2008 about the “overlapping” teaching right away, and be done with it. Why would he tell them something incorrect first, and then decide to send down the right understanding only two years later. Doesn’t the Son of God know or have the power to get it right sooner and not embarrass his chosen ones?”

  The constant garbage about old light, changing to new light is all nonsense. Many of us followed Chris Hadfield the Canadian astronaut who served as the commander of the International Space Station. I was fascinated by all the incredible pictures he Tweeted and the real time interviews and videos that were “beamed down” to earth for millions/billions to watch. I thought to myself how marvelous it is that imperfect humans can understand the laws of the universe, radio waves, satellites, internet protocols etc. to be able to accomplish such a monumental feat.

  On the other hand, the Creator of these very laws, is using instead His Son, along with His mighty and powerful Holy Spirit. Why then can’t God “beam down” accurate timely “theocratic light” right the first time to His illustrious F&DS? The WTS leaders better get a better high speed connection to God when they move to Warwick. It seems NASA can communicate more effectively and efficiently with imperfect humans on earth.
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  1975 coverup! Compare the '68 and '81 Truth book scans

  by JimmyPage in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  the wt society pointed to 1975 as the date for the end of the world.

  when the date came and went they changed their publications to remove themselves from the fiasco.

  need proof?

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  How did we fall for all this? JW’s have an almost childlike sense of trust and naiveté that they bestow upon their imperfect leaders. And millions today are still doing that. A small child eventually learns and matures through life experiences, and can distinguish right from wrong. But many JW’s seem to just continue to have this “hope” that they have somehow managed to land in the only one “true religion.”
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  2014 Convention Audio available?

  by gbrn in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i was wondering if anyone is aware of any recordings of the convention as of yet?

  i know its relatively early, so i may just have to wait.

  just curious if anyone had a copy yet.. thanks!.

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  Donation of blood fractions

  by why144000 in

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  2. friends

  this may be the wrong area for this but here goes.. if you went to a bank and told them " i don't have an account with you, i never will have an account with you and i will tell people you are a terrible bank" then ask not for a loan from them, but a gift of a lot of money, how do you think they would respond?.

  yet, witnesses now have the the ability to take blood fractions from the blood bank without ever contributing to the blood bank.

  there is a process that the blood bank takes just the plasma from a donor to be used for fractions only.

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  Thanks TD. Much appreciated.
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  1975 AWAKE!!! Predictions

  by iamwhoiam in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  over at the archives..enjoy!.

  http://archive.org/details/1975predictionsinawakemagazinebyjehovahswitnesses.

  *click on pdf at the left side of the page.

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  New Tract for August 2014 - Scan

  by BluesBrother in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  if someone has done this before , i apologise but this was new to me.....struck me as strange that nowadays, the answers to life's problems are found on the internet .

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  We’ve come a long way since this August 15, 2011 Watchtower.

  The WTS has gone “all in” regarding the “evil” Internet.
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  Detroit Style Ballroom Dancing

  by KateWild in

  1. social
  2. entertainment

  trying to make rcs less of a snorefest.

  not exactly award winning either, but worth a laugh.

  kate xx.

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  I find this dancing to a worldly song in the KH unbelievable. We used to have a Congregation Family Night every so often in our hall. Everyone brought food; we would eat it in the basement. We would later go upstairs to the auditorium and be entertained. Some played musical instruments, sang a song, or re-enacted a funny field service experience, etc. I was impressed at how talented some of our brothers & sisters were. This was stopped because we can’t have any entertainment in a house of worship!!

  In the next congregation I was in, we would plan a night for the regular pioneers at the end of the year to show our appreciation for their hard work. Meals were prepared all were invited to associate together and later go upstairs for some entertainment in the main auditorium. The pioneers were given a gift, a congregation picture was taken. Harmless and encouraging right? Nope, this was stopped because too much time and planning was being used arranging the entertainment, using the stage and sound equipment for recreation!!

  Everything had to be like Magnum said, “Every available minute was supposed to be spent in the ministry, studying, meditating, etc.”

  Young JW’s couldn’t go to clubs, bars even with their peers because of the worldly atmosphere, music, and alcohol etc. So instead some brothers (16-21 yrs. old) arranged to play basketball in a gymnasium at a high school in our territory. Get some exercise, have a few laughs, blow off some steam. Harmless right? No a sanctimonious CO got that information and questioned us about it, at the Elders/MS meeting. You guessed it, it was stopped, use that time for studying instead, no fun allowed.

  On another occasion two sisters attempted to plan a picnic for the congregation during the week of the CO’s visit. They told the PO at the time, who thought it, was a fabulous idea. This was deliberately timed (during the visit) in order to include the CO and his wife to free food, good association, and fresh air in the park. Harmless right? No this CO, the biggest egomaniac I ever had the misfortune of serving under, ordered the picnic cancelled. His attitude was that during HIS visit nothing should detract from the focus and purpose of HIS visit. I was present during all these events.

  The above mentioned pompous, smug, “pieces of work” are now over 70 years old. I’ve heard that they have told their fellow JW’s that their “services are no longer required.” (Sept 1, 2014) As far as I’m concerned, “It’s been nice knowing you, don’t let the door hit you on the way out.”

  As someone already mentioned, The Temptations are an American vocal group known for their success with Motown Records during the 1960s and 1970s. With all the nonsensical crap I’ve heard in decades while in this religion, I’m amazed that this short video occurred in a KH.