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  Is Jehovah God guilty of the Sin of Omission ?

  by smiddy in

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  in genesis ch.1&2 god warns adam that if he ate of the tree of knowledge of good and bad he would die .theire was nothing said about anything else.. you would expect humans would just die of old age like adam and eve did.. the wages of sin is death the bible tells us .so if he disobeyed jehovah god he knew he would die .. what he never knew and neither did any other human to come after him was just how many ways death would come to humans.. death by creatures that were created by god venomous creatures ,snakes spiders etc.,marine creatures sharks etc., bacteria /viruses etc.,insect carrying diseases such as the mosquito that causes thousands of deaths to children under 5 years old even today with malaria.,wild animals etc,.leprosy that even existed under theocratic rule in the nation of israel.. then their is the indignties humans go through in old age ,loss of bodily functions , mental capacity ,alzheimers ,neurological diseases that effect young and old.that reduce people to almost live not much better than a vegetable .

  natural disasters not to be excluded because these are in the control of god to afflict mankind or not.. the list of afflictions that humans have to suffer through before they die , from a loving god just boggles my mind.. and i have only scratched the surface of indignities humans have faced before they die.. so i ask the question is god jehovah guilty of the sin of omission ?

  or did he act out of vengeance for their disobedience and wanted to inflict greater punishment upon them.for disobeying him.. what are your thoughts ?.

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  NotNew

  "God warns Adam that if he ate of the tree of knowledge of good and bad he would die ."

  So Adam knew what death was?
  

  My thoughts: Prior to sinning, Adam and Eve would have had to FIRST chose to not believe God.

  So we have two infants Adam and Eve ( pawns in the game of life and death god made up) who after being presented with evidence (?) from this powerful angel that transformed in to a tree creature...used the power of persuasion, to convince Eve that she was not being told the whole truth. Seem to me she FIRST based her decision on the more believable information presented?! Not arbitrarily choosing not to believe God!
  How can you blame someone for not believing you based only on what you said without providing them with some information to back it up? To say you first chose not to believe me is passing blame!
  Gods relationship with his angelic children was strained, he should of worked it out with them and not involve powerless infant humans.
  
  
  
  
  
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  Watchtower’s 53 Date Failures -- Prophetic Declarations Quietly Abandoned

  by FatFreek 2005 in

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  below is a paste of the front of my recent essay.

  ask most jws today and they'll tell you that, yes, watchtower has made a few mistakes -- that there are a couple date failures -- 1925 -- and maybe another one they can't even remember.. lest they forget, the following should jog their collective memories as to how egregious watchtower has been in their obsession with date predictions (oh, but we don't make predictions, they may tell you) over the 138 years of watchtower history.. len miller.

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  NotNew

  Great work...I'll add it to my files . THANKS
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  So, the Womens March ... What Is It For?

  by Simon in

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  it seems like mobilizing after the election, which seems pointless.

  i keep hearing demands for equal rights but don't understand what rights they are missing exactly.. normally a march is to show the support (and potential votes) for a cause, but ... votes for what?

  ... and the election happened already.. is anyone else confused?

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  NotNew

  Simon...you are making way too much sense, you need to stop it for fear of people's heads exploding! :)
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  Paul did not belittle women

  by Doug Mason in

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  i note the recent post that quoted 1 timothy 2:11-12 and colossians 1:23 which place women at a level that is lower to men.

  the poster accused paul of this mysoginy, but that is not correct.. 1 timothy, 2 timothy, titus, colossians, ephesians and hebrews were written after paul's death.. paul was not a mysoginist; he made full use of women in leadership roles.

  he wrote that in god's sight there is neither male nor female, for all are one in god's sight.. doug.

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  NotNew

  Point taken! Seems those posters are or appear to be misandrist...always putting men in a bad light. If ur a male don't dare say anything negative about a female or you will be labeled as a hater of all women!
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  Do you believe that Jehovah is using the Organization today?

  by Iamallcool in

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  any elder has never asked me that question so far but i want to be prepared to answer that question if any of them ask me that question in the future.

  i hope that they will never ask me that question.

  any suggestions on how to answer that question would be very much appreciated.

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  NotNew

  For what?

  To despence food at the proper time?
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  Survey: Are you Agnostic or Atheist or Christian?

  by Iamallcool in

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  i am agnostic.

  i will count how many agnostics, atheists and christians that are reading this forum regularly.

  please answer my question.

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  NotNew

  I currently believe there is/was a creator...but not a god as instructed to believe by my JW upbringing. So that would make me an atheist to the long held belief in a loving god!

  
  
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  Yoga pants parade to protest a mans comments on women's wear.

  by ToesUp in

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  yoga pants parade.

  i guess tight pants tony isn't the only man that needs to get a life!.

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  NotNew

  Why would anyone want to ban yoga pants?
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  BIG news Trump...His lewd conversation leaks.

  by James Mixon in

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  if he get pass this, america deserve him...... conversation 10 years ago..

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  BIG news Trump...His lewd conversation leaks.

  by James Mixon in

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  if he get pass this, america deserve him...... conversation 10 years ago..

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  NotNew

  No one who matters cares what he said? Cast your vote then cry or rejoice after!

  
  
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  When you were fully in, did you believe that you would not die?

  by TTWSYF in

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  i know that it must seem silly to ask, but my brother and his family think that the big a will arrive before they die.

  i tried to explain to my brother that everyone else who has ever lived in the past has died and only jesus has [physically] rose from the dead.. it is amazing that anyone could buy that line.

  what crazy cult culture that could make people believe such nonsense?!.

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  NotNew

  Yes...but, I felt I could dye from "normal" ways, accident or illness...but surely not growing old and dying in this old system, as Armageddon would come and save me/us. That was the teaching. That was the carrot, you would never grow old and die in this present system of things! - if you keep doing what you are told to do!

  SW