Posts by fearnotruth22

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Details on Files Kept in the Cong.

by Blueblades in

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what exactly is put into the file on those who are disfellowedshipped?is the information very detailed,so that others can read such details,or is it just that they have been disfellowedshipped.. for example:suppose someone have been df.for a sexual matter,brother or sister.are the details descriptive of what was committed or is just that they were df.i know that on the outside of the envelope the name is posted and that's it.but if someone were to open the folder and look inside can they get the detailed information on that person?.

when do the elders destroy such folders?can a person who no longer wishes to come back get their records and destroy them themselves?.

blueblades

fearnotruth22

You can request to read the letter of intro if you change congs. It depends on the body what details are written , but lots of details about a particular situation can be contained in such records.

But all an elder has to do is to see that you have a record even if he doesnt read the details but sees the sealed file. He tells his wife and then the congreagtion knows. And if the leders in your hall are like the ones in mine, they will make remars about you and allude to your past even after many years of your good standing. You will always feel like garbage and intimidtated because they know something about you. Even oif you beome and elder or ms, they got you. You will always have to play the role of the repentant sinnner and the publishhers will not respect you Better off having no one having info that will be used against you. You will be ruined and never be held in any high esteem.. If you are a perverse child molestor watch out becaus eth org keeps a list of such individuals.

Whether the record of the judicial committe can be transfered to other congreagation is not as important as the having of a record in any location which contains particulars and personal information IN WRITING that you dont want anyone to see. Fine yu repented and all that and are now a good boy so why keep a record that others can use against you and that damages you. Such records should be destaroyed when a pub dies, but I know for a fact of records still there after a bro dies. Funny the Soiety teaches that death is payment in full for sins to God, an aqutital but the Society still keeps the records after death.

THe elders can destroy records at their whim for anyone they favor who has been a good boy for years exept to those repeat offenders or patter sinners even if the were good boys for years. Just because a bro later is appointed does no result in the destroyning of records. They can remain even after the bro dies

In my opinion. It would be great if a jw wanting help from the elders could get that help without records. BUt the less people know about you, the better off you are.

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WHAT'S NEXT AFTER "REFINEMENT"?

by fearnotruth22 in

for years the wts has been focusing on being more efficient, refinement, etc.

that is why many departments in the wts have merged, others eliminated.

the lates gossip from betthel a couple of years ago was that bethel was downsizing and many bethelite would be sned home and those leaving would not be repalced, also the sale of wt property, the printibg of literaure overseas normally done here and more prining done upsate ny would seem to indicate a move out of brooklyn, to patterson.

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yeah billions of dollars to further kingdom interests

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So, what's stopping you from going to the hall?

by JH in

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2 elders came to my door today, at noon sharp, and i opened the door to let them in.

they didn't want to come in, so they stood at the door and asked me, "what's stopping you from coming to the hall"?

they only come once a year and always around christmas time.

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The answer to the question is: Nothing.

If they ask why dont you come/ the answer to that question is: Too many questions.

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Return To God, and He WIll Forgive You in a Large Way!

by AwakenedAndFree in

did you leave the watchtower society and the true god ,too?.

i believe that god still helps some of the of the ones still "traped" in the org.

- god helped me greatly while i was still in.

fearnotruth22

SS I see what you mean. However there seems to be something fishy. I agree with the WT basis justifying "insertion" : If Jesus quoted from a passage in the OT containing the divine name, or whenever a passgage in the NT is quoting the OT containing the divine name ceratinly the divine name would be used. For example when Jesus read from the book of Isaiah, to be faithful to the hebrew text Jesus ceratinly would have read the name YHWH thus when the gospel writers quoted Jesus reading the passage from Isaih containing the name yhwh, in order to be loyal to exactly what the OTstates, YHWH is what the Ot passage says. Foer some reason men have eradicated the name of God fom the Scriptures sems to me.Or would Jesus misrepresnt what the OT says deleting the name and inserting a substitute title for the name. Fishy.

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WHAT'S NEXT AFTER "REFINEMENT"?

by fearnotruth22 in

for years the wts has been focusing on being more efficient, refinement, etc.

that is why many departments in the wts have merged, others eliminated.

the lates gossip from betthel a couple of years ago was that bethel was downsizing and many bethelite would be sned home and those leaving would not be repalced, also the sale of wt property, the printibg of literaure overseas normally done here and more prining done upsate ny would seem to indicate a move out of brooklyn, to patterson.

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Anyone know why they are building in dunbo if the wts is downsizing its personel oin brooklyn? or has there been another change?

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20,000 Die While "GOD" Watches as he sips Iced Tea

by JT in

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today i had an interesting conversation, not with a christian believer but a muslim believer, .

he was trying to recruit me into the faith--so i thought i would pose the question to him about why his god watches as 20,000 believers (muslims) women, children, etc lost thier lives-.

his explanation i thought was straight out of a christian handbook on.

fearnotruth22

and thats just the tip of the iceberg. unumbered millions of humans and the animal creation die and suffer endlessly throught creation. The only time for divine intervention is for fire and brimstone from heaven or the flood to add to deaths and suffering. However according to the Bible also, God has heard and helped individulas such as in the time that Jesus did miracles.

But why would God only help a couple of jews and contemporaries of Jesus and allow millions or billions to dies without comming to their assistance. I cant understand it. Can you?

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Is There ANY JW Belief That You Still Believe In???

by minimus in

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do any here still believe in paradise earth, blood prohibitions, etc.??

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I dont know what jw beliefs are real, but I dont belive in trinity or hellfirelfire. Don't believe in the Nethinim, not sure about the 144000 or the slave. Hope that living 4 ever on earth is true. Hard to accept all of what the Bible seems to say..

Dont belive virginity is common as is use to be, that est is east and west is west and being firsyt is always best, that superman nad robin hood are still alive in Holywoood, but I believe in love and I belive in, I believe in mom and dad and I belive in you.

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WHAT'S NEXT AFTER "REFINEMENT"?

by fearnotruth22 in

for years the wts has been focusing on being more efficient, refinement, etc.

that is why many departments in the wts have merged, others eliminated.

the lates gossip from betthel a couple of years ago was that bethel was downsizing and many bethelite would be sned home and those leaving would not be repalced, also the sale of wt property, the printibg of literaure overseas normally done here and more prining done upsate ny would seem to indicate a move out of brooklyn, to patterson.

fearnotruth22

For years the WTS has been focusing on being more efficient, refinement, etc

that is why many departments in the wts have merged, others eliminated. The lates gossip from betthel a couple of years ago was that Bethel was downsizing and many bethelite would be sned home and those leaving would not be repalced, also the sale of wt property, the printibg of literaure overseas normally done here and more prining done upsate ny would seem to indicate a move out of brooklyn, to Patterson. Yet the WT is now planning to build in Dumbo. What's going on? Does anyone know what the WTS move is?

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Return To God, and He WIll Forgive You in a Large Way!

by AwakenedAndFree in

did you leave the watchtower society and the true god ,too?.

i believe that god still helps some of the of the ones still "traped" in the org.

- god helped me greatly while i was still in.

fearnotruth22

Blue:

As aa awakes posts atest to, people just believe what they like regardless of the facts AA awake has cherised beliefs that no facts can ever disprove..

It would be a waste of time trying to show that the NWTis an accurate translation to someone that is ready to refute facts and arguments because he is staunchly in opposition to it The NWT is in fact my favorite. What I belive that Bible translators have done is to overstep translation into interpretation. To one that is familiar with idiomatic expressions of a language, when translating words and ideas into another language does not do so literaly but wishes to convey the meaning of the words from the language he is translating from. In my opinion, the NWT is loyal as it claims to the base text but also takes into account the language of the time together with the Bible's commonn thread in all verses. This si my opinion. Just as it has been a waste of time to present facts to persuade aa awake from what she likes to belive it would also go nowhere to present facts in support of the nwt.

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Anybody know what this is?

by funkyderek in

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the tape measure is only there for comparison.

any ideas, i can win a bottle of wine if i get the answer in the next two hours or so....

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