Thanks Blondie, "vomit worthy" is an understatement. No wonder JW families have been so schizophrenic lately in dealing with us. Between the Sept "when a loved one leaves..." This article, and now the Jan 15 on "when a child rebels," they're really beating them over the head trying to keep the R & F from being exposed to the non-indoctrinated.
Posts by Odrade
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32Comments You Will Not Hear at the 12-31-06 WT Study (Discipline)
by blondie inwas he married to his own mother?
q1) why should we accept divine discipline?.
does that mean if a jw married their ex-stepmother or ex-stepfather today, they would be dfd?.
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I finally did it!!
by Irreverent ini volunteered and gave blood for the first time this past tuesday.
my heart condition has improved to the point that my doctor okayed my donating blood.
i am kind of a wuss when it comes to shots and needles; but being in a hospital in intensive care gets you over that.
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Odrade
Whoohoo Irrev! Merry Christmas too! I can't give blood for 4 more months because of having a new tattoo. Dumb rule.
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Found an Old Letter
by Scully ini was going through an old file folder a few days ago and came across this letter i wrote to our old congregation regarding renovations that had been proposed.
at the time, i was very upset with the way the proposals were steam-rollered through (i think the sentiment comes across nicely in my letter lol).
has anything like this ever happened elsewhere??
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Odrade
Nice "bump." I hadn't seen this before. Too bad more people don't object to these practices, instead letting themselves be bullied and duped into the Society's best interests, rather than the best interests of the "flock."
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would you all consider this a serious threat????
by annalice inlet me start by saying that i have posted here before about my wacko sister -in-law.
this time it is bad.
we recieved a phone call from my husbands father on friday night asking about how we were and what we were up to ,no biggie just odd since its only maybe the second time in over a year that he has called.
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Odrade
Scared is crying on the phone "I'm afraid you're going to die!"
Crazy is putting notes in your brother's mailbox saying you're going to let the birds eat your sister-in-law's rotting body. It may not be a direct death threat, but it is unacceptably over the top. Perhaps a little compassion is warranted for a crazy woman who is living her entire life in expectation of watching the carrion birds eating her sis-in-law, but only after reasonable precautions are taken to protect her family against someone who might be crazy enough to do something violent in a misguided attempt to give them a shot at life in the new system.
It's been known to happen... just saying.
I suspect the police might see it as a death threat, at the very least they will see it as violent.
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"I wanted to throw the book across the room"
by GetBusyLiving ini just read the topic "i thought i was alone" by newbie elinor.
i found it interesting how he mentioned that he wanted to throw the daniel book "across the room" after reading some of the many misapplied prophecies concocted by the overlord's in brooklyn.
when i was a jw i also fantasized at times of throwing the book across the room, but for me it was the revelation book over ten years ago.
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Odrade
First Isaiah book. What a POS. We didn't attend ANY of the 2nd Isaiah bookstudy, couldn't stomach the idea. Bleh. I was already out when the new "Teacher" book came out, but I told my MIL that if she gave it to the kids we nannied, I'd take it away and tear it up and throw it out. I don't think she liked that much. Oh, and they have it now. I don't work there anymore so she gave it to them. I hate that book.
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So what'd you get? Loot reports here...
by frozen one ini got a couple of lumps of coal and a 2 for 1 mcdonald's dollar menu coupon.
warm and fed...a christmas miracle!!
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Odrade
LOL! It's a VERY nice toaster.
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So what'd you get? Loot reports here...
by frozen one ini got a couple of lumps of coal and a 2 for 1 mcdonald's dollar menu coupon.
warm and fed...a christmas miracle!!
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Toaster (yay!) I had to tell him that if I didn't get a new toaster I'd be really cranky.
Portable DVD player so I can FINALLY use all of those continuing education dvds I paid big bux for.
And...
NEIL GAIMAN'S ABSOLUTE SANDMAN VOL 1 OMG!!! whoohooo! YAY MEEEEE!!!! MERRY CHRISTMAS!!!!
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Should I get an iPod? What do you use yours for?
by Elsewhere inlet me start by saying that i am not a music fan.
i hardly ever listen to music and almost never buy cd's and my car's stereo is almost always set to npr or some other news station.
i don't even have a stereo system at home... simply because i would never use it.. however, i've been hearing more and more about the ipod devices.
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Odrade
podcasts, audio books, music of course. I have a bunch of ambient music on there for work. (outcalls.) so I can set up at the client site (massage therapy) and have "massage music." I also have a flat set of folding Altec-lansing speakers.
It's not an IPod though. It's Creative's Zen MicroPhoto. 8gig flash drive. I love it. The only drawback to the Creative is that all (and I do mean ALL) of the accessories are made to fit the IPod.
Like you, I don't listen to music that much... mostly talk radio, NPR, lectures, etc. MP3 players are great for that, but I don't know that I'd spring for a 60 gig HD unit just for that.
P.S. what Terry said? Ditto for the Zen. Recorder, easy drag and drop file transfer, supports many formats, Radio tuner, easy menus...
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I got the phone call. WARNING, DEPRESSING!
by Schism inwell,my dad called last night, crying.
he says armageddon's about to start and he doesn't want to lose me.
he said i either need to become a good jw and go to the meetings, or he will have to distance himself from me so that he won't be so attached to me when the big a hits.
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Odrade
Wow, I feel for you Schism, but I have to tell you, I read your post to my husband and we both got a good hearty laugh at the utter lack of logic. Poor daddy. My parents went through a phase like this, ironically, it was before we left the organization. They were doing this crying/guilt trip thing while I was still a "good," faithful meeting attender.
After we left, we got quite a bit of the "so and so asked about you..." I took to saying "that's nice, I'm sorry that their phone got disconnected" or " so and so who? I'm sorry, I don't remember them. I'm not sure they ever talked to me..." or "are they the ones that used to have all the parties? yeah, we were never invited to any of those..." hehe.
Of course I don't have younger siblings that are being kept from me. My younger brother is in his 30s, so he makes up his own mind. Some days he shuns me, some days he doesn't.
It gets better, really it does. Maybe the JW family doesn't behave any more rationally, but you learn to deal with it easier. Days like today it can be kind of sad. I'd love to have a houseful of relatives, presents all around and a 7' christmas tree, but it's just the two of us. No family that's not married to that damn organization.
Most of the time though, it's just life. I gave up trying to convince them that I'm happy. Now I just live my life successfully. I'm cheerful when they call, even if they use their "woe is me" voices. I hear that tone far less often now, since they have discovered that voice doesn't affect me much. Interestingly, they call me much more now. I'm lucky, I suppose.
I guess some parents decide that they'd like to cherish whatever time they have left before Armaggedon. (!) Others really do think shunning is "tough love."
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Dec KM indicates extreme paranoia over booking hotels NOT on the list
by truthseeker inover the years, the society has included half a page in their annual guidelines when planning for and attending the district convention.. in particular, they have been very insistent that only hotels on the recommended lodging list be used.. .
the language in this month's km is even more insistent than last years.. .
here is the text in full, with the original emphasis.. .
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Odrade
The society receives block pricing. One of the benefits of contracting with a hotel is they get a number of rooms for free. All the Bethel heavies and their guests have use of these rooms. If the hotel doesn't fill the offered rooms at the agreed-upon rate, they begin reducing the number of free rooms. Since the JWs are told not to even call another hotel that's not on the list, they have no idea that they're getting a bum deal so "Bethel Elder Entitled" can stay at the Double Tree Suites for 4 days free.
The last two conventions we attended before we left, we "neglected" to make our reservations until after the list had expired... approximately 2 weeks before the D.C. We were able to pay significantly less for our rooms at a nice hotel, than the JW rates. All the JW sees is the rate they pay (from the list), then when they arrive at the hotel and see that the published room rate is double or triple what they are paying, they believe that the WT has negotiated a far better deal than they ever could. They don't realize that huge discounts are common hotel practice.
Has anyone ever noticed that the poor JWs who don't/can't travel due to finances, always, stay in recommended lodging, while many of those going off-list are the more well-to-do who know their way around a travel plan?