Jim Jones (People's Temple, Jonestown,) used exactly the same tactics. He would tell the people that the CIA/FBI/various organizations (including the illuminati) were after them, scare the people, then reveal it was a "drill," to prepare them for what would eventually happen to them. Of course, we know what happened to them...
Posts by Odrade
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41Cruel Joke by Circuit Overseer
by diamondblue1974 ini was reading the thread about the prospect of the wts releasing some new light shite about a prophecy to fulfil the fact that they are not growing and it brought back a really horrid memory, unintentional i know but horrid nonetheless.. the co visited the congregation were i was from and after the obligatory song and prayer, it was announced that the co needed to speak to us urgently on a local needs issue.
he came onto the platform his look was sombre and melancholy (nothing new there then).
he said he had an announcement from the governing body and that their had been a law passed that day which banned jw's in the uk that the usa and other world governments had notified the wts that they were to follow suit shortly.
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When did you STOP considering yourself a JW ? ? ? ?
by JH inany particular event sparked this change of heart ?.
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Odrade
We were driving, about 2 hours into our 2-1/2 hour drive to Tacoma for the District Convention, and I was reading Crisis of Conscience for the first time. As we were passing through Olympia, I said, "That's it, I quit! I'm never going back."
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What foods do you find offensive?
by bigwilly inapparently some food items offend persons on this site.
so, out of curiousity, what foods offend you?
what about them offends you?
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Odrade
Bananas, cucumbers, the now ubiquitous twinkie, kielbasas, hot dogs- especially those offensively inappropriate Kosher dogs... OH, bully sticks, passionfruit. I'm sure there are others. Many foods are offensive. There should be ratings.
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Things to understand about talking to a Jehovah's Witness...
by drew sagan inplease note that everything i write here is within the context of discussions between two witnesses.
conversations between a jw and non jw are different in a number of ways and so i will not be discussing them here.
the 'running ahead' fallacy.
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Odrade
How about the "those are just men" aka: "imperfect men make mistakes that will be corrected" fallacy? grr.
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Non-traditional marriage proposal -- she ask him?
by merfi inyour thoughts?.
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(thinking about it...).
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Odrade
sure. but only if asking does not equal pushing.
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Barbara Anderson's Paedophilia CD: The Watchtowers Chocolate Cake Defence
by Duncan ini received my copy of barbara andersons cd paedophilia in an american religion a month or two ago, and i have been reading through it since.. what follows, although i have called this a review, is in no sense a scholarly consideration of the legal merits of the cases described, a task for which i am wholly unqualified.
these are, rather, my subjective reflections on the material presented, the impressions i gathered while reading the legal filings, my untrained, common-man appraisal of the cases laid out in those documents.
ill also admit to being swayed by tone of voice adopted, and to using my own common-sense yardstick in determining the reasonableness of the statements made, the responses given and the arguments put forward.
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Odrade
Thank you Duncan. This was a very helpful summary, I appreciate it.
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Lowly publishers can now attend international conventions
by unbeliever ini don't know if this has been posted yet but my mom told me that there was a letter from crooklyn that publishers can now attend international conventions.
before only the pioneers, elders, etc could attend.
she said that there was a tremendous amount of excitement among the publishers that they now have the "privilege" of attending.
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Odrade
Yeah, the sight-seeing is limited because they spend their spare time shuttling them around to see the branch and/or local kingdumb halls. My parents went to the Chile/Argentina one, (and Poland and a couple others,) and came back with almost zero pictures of sites, but they sure had a lot of pictures of people nobody knew, and buildings with no windows in them...
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Lowly publishers can now attend international conventions
by unbeliever ini don't know if this has been posted yet but my mom told me that there was a letter from crooklyn that publishers can now attend international conventions.
before only the pioneers, elders, etc could attend.
she said that there was a tremendous amount of excitement among the publishers that they now have the "privilege" of attending.
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Odrade
See, I never got this at all. Aren't ALL the conventions "open to the public?" So what's to prevent anyone from traveling to some exotic convention site and attending? Even us? It always cracked me up that there was all this application bullcrappy, and "special privileges" to attend. Hahaha!
I'll bet they were excited.
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jw Massage therapist
by carla inwhat is the deal with this?
it seems i hear more and more about some jw woman who is a massage therapist.
i can't think of a more unseemly occupation for a jw woman that is legal.
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Odrade
This is all rather insulting. A legitimate massage therapist does NOT give happy endings, and the client is not exposing the private bits. Passing rumors around hmmm? Shame on you.
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MY DAD MIGHT DIE DUE TO THE 'NO BLOOD' DOCTRINE
by Mary ini don't have much time to post as i'm headed back to the hospital, but my father collapsed this morning and had to be rushed to the hospital.
in a nutshell: he needs a blood transfusion as his hemoglobin is dropping (bleeding internally), but thanks to this fucking cult, that's not an option...........he'll accept the fractions but those bastards from the blood liaison committee have already shown up to ensure he doesn't cave............... for those of you who still believe, i'm asking you to say a prayer for my dad........and if anyone from crooklyn is reading this: you better hope my father doesn't die due to your fucked up rules, .
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Odrade
Mary, sorry to hear about this whole mess. Thank goodness you were there to advocate for his life.
Harleau, sadly, the WT has distorted the original purpose of the two "abstain" verses as they have done with so many other things. It would behoove you to do some research that is not printed by the Watchtower Society, before it is YOU or someone YOU LOVE who is dying because of this blasphemous JW dogma.