What difference does it make if WT legal tells them to reverse their decisions? They've already humiliated the woman, and ruined the couple's marriage.
Posts by Odrade
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81Friend gets "scriptural divorce" over wifes transgressions before they got married...
by sosoconfused inso i have a friend in a congregation in new jersey who recently called me to tell me that he got a divorce.
nothing surprising there at first but it is the fact of when it happened.
his wife began pioneering april 1, and after about three weeks she came to him and told him that about 4 years she had engaged in loose conduct (fondling the penis and the guy kissing her breasts) during a time that she was inactive.
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Today's Watchtower Lesson Really Bothered Me...
by dontplaceliterature ini was a hair away from telling my wife i never wanted to go to the kingdom hall again after today's watchtower.
the conductor mentioned something along the lines of..."if you think having to shun your disfellowshipped children is bad...you should read up on the israelites.
when one of their children was disobedient to the law, they had to take the before the judges so that they could be stoned to death...and guess who's job it was throw the first stone?".
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Odrade
Yep, it is sad. And people like that will use WT studies like this to justify their choice of shunning. My mother is like this. Ultimately though, it's her choice, and if even hateful and shocking statements like this can't wake her up, that's on her.
What a shame.
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Today's Watchtower Lesson Really Bothered Me...
by dontplaceliterature ini was a hair away from telling my wife i never wanted to go to the kingdom hall again after today's watchtower.
the conductor mentioned something along the lines of..."if you think having to shun your disfellowshipped children is bad...you should read up on the israelites.
when one of their children was disobedient to the law, they had to take the before the judges so that they could be stoned to death...and guess who's job it was throw the first stone?".
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Odrade
The people who will bury their heads will do it whether the statements are overt or sugar coated. The ones who have a chance of waking up... well, they need to hear those things. I know words like this definitely contributed to my subconscious breakdown and exit.
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Today's Watchtower Lesson Really Bothered Me...
by dontplaceliterature ini was a hair away from telling my wife i never wanted to go to the kingdom hall again after today's watchtower.
the conductor mentioned something along the lines of..."if you think having to shun your disfellowshipped children is bad...you should read up on the israelites.
when one of their children was disobedient to the law, they had to take the before the judges so that they could be stoned to death...and guess who's job it was throw the first stone?".
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Odrade
I hope they continue to make proclamations like this. The more heinous statements they make out loud, the more people will be shocked into waking up and leaving.
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Calling DARINGHART - need some "insider" info
by Odrade insorry, don't know how much you're on here, or check your pm, kind of time-sensitive, and i know i'm being cryptic, sorry.
i sent you pm..
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Odrade
Sorry, don't know how much you're on here, or check your PM, kind of time-sensitive, and I know I'm being cryptic, sorry. I sent you PM.
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Fading and the Blood Issue
by brotherdan inhey everyone,.
so most of you know my story and gave me the advice of taking things slow with my wife and not rushing her in regards to leaving the "o".
so i have been taking things slow, saying things that i appreciated from the meetings, and keeping my mouth shut in regards to everything that makes me want to vomit.. last night we were talking (very amiably) about some things that i said on a youtube comment, which she busted me about.
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Odrade
I believe one of the reasons my mother is shunning me (I'm not df'd or da'd) is because I told her that she and dad needed to put their wishes regarding blood and medical treatment in writing. I told her that if I were the one tasked with making their medical decisions for them, I would decided based on what was medically sound, if there were no other documents to the contrary outlining their wishes. The discussion occurred because my mother was telling me that, under no circumstances would she take any fractions, even if they are now supposedly a conscience matter.
At the time, I found all of this especially ironic, as her best friend at Bethel was one of the primary researchers who wrote the pamphlet/article (4 years ago?) explaining and outlining a large portion of the "fractions" policy. A year or so prior to the conversation, I had opportunity to view the final draft of this article and its accompanying illustrations. This was before my mother became aware of the fact that we were never going back, and that I would prefer to rely on the advice of real physicians, rather than researchers for the WT writing department.
They simply don't think rationally about the subject. They react as though you'd requested them to eat a meal of dog poo blended with strychnine.
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My letter to my aunt.
by alice.in.wonderland inmy grandparents are jehovah's witnesses and didn't raise their daughter to behave in such a manner.
i sent her this letter:.
g82 5/8 pp.
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Odrade
"There's no one that thinks you have any practical value as a family member. "
Wow, you're a nasty piece of work, aren't you?
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Odrade
Troubled: most of the proteins that cause the issues are directly related to diet. If you can put the cat on a no grain food (raw diet or no-grain processed food) you might find it resolves most of the allergy problems.
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Are more men leaving the WT than women???
by changeling intalking to a couple fellow posters the other day i made the observation that there seem to be more men on this board, and, in particular, more married men whose wives are still "in".
i could be wrong about this, but that's how it seems to me.... so, provided my observation is true, why do ya'll think that is?
why are men waking up while the women lag behind?
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Odrade
Well, either that, or when women leave, they have more things to get done, so aren't spending as much time around here. ;-)
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Have your views on gays changed over the years?
by laverite insome questions....feel free to answer any or all of these.
have your views of gay people changed over the years?
do you have or have you ever had gay friends?
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Odrade
Yep, my views have changed. I never could quite go along with the mindset that it was bad, always believed it was genetic, in spite of what the WT said, but when I was a JW, I believed it was broken genetics, that something had gone wrong with the wiring. I thought it was a genetic aberration, like bad eyesight, or 6 toes, and that it would all get "fixed" in the New System™.
Now I still believe it's genetics, but more like brown eyes or blue eyes. It's not broken, it's just different from me.