ok i need some help from who ever has dealt w. their jw parents.
this is the email i got from my parents: .
dear melissa, .
Dave, thanks for this. I've been wondering how I was going to handle the inevitable "we love you but we can't associate with you" from my family. I see it coming...
Melissa, thanks for starting this thread, it has been of great help to me too.
Odrade
i read with much interest all of the replies to my original question in another thread.
i downloaded one of the books suggested and compiled what i could.
now, as i checked around for sources to prove that i was right and that the nt was jehovah-less, two people mentioned wt sources that i would like verified: 1 - "the watchtower march 1, 1991 p. 28 states that jehovah is not found in the nt.
LOL @ undercover!!! Yeah you're right. It's such a simple argument. "Do you mean to tell me that the Scribes were so meticulous that they checked and double checked so as not to get one small character wrong, but then in just a few short years the Christian copyists, every last one of them, conspired to remove entirely God's Holy Name more than 237 times??!!"
LMAO! I think you get the prize!
Odrade
i read with much interest all of the replies to my original question in another thread.
i downloaded one of the books suggested and compiled what i could.
now, as i checked around for sources to prove that i was right and that the nt was jehovah-less, two people mentioned wt sources that i would like verified: 1 - "the watchtower march 1, 1991 p. 28 states that jehovah is not found in the nt.
yet another revision to the Kingdom Interlinear Forward and Appendices. In the 1985 ed. the info reads. This admission:
THE DIVINE NAME: One of the remarkable facts, not only about the extant manuscripts of the original Greek text, but of many versions, ancient and modern, is the absence of the divine name... [Comments about divine name in OT]...As the Christian Greek Scriptures were an inspired addition and supplement to the sacred Hebrew Scriptures, this sudden disappearance from the Greek text seems inconsistent...
is now in the appendix 1A in the back of the interlinear, having been replaced in the forward by this:
The evidence is that the original text of the Christian Greek Scriptures has been tampered with, the same as the text of the LLX has been. Sometime during the second or third centuries C.E., the Tetragrammaton (YHWH, or JHVH) was eliminated from the Greek text by copyists who did not understand or appreciate the divine name or who developed an aversion to it, possibly under the influence of anti-Semetism.
blah, blah, blah. More in this vein, more justification for why little Johnny is the only one in step. Interestingly there are no secular references mentioned in the forward or the appendices in support of this assertion. Any good little witness will be able to point to the revision as the "new light" or an "updated understanding" although still providing no real proof. So be prepared for them to switch editions on you.
Odrade
when you and i've talked about your trip to bethel, i had only a very few clues about the ramifications of your 'experience,' and how much it changed your life.. everyone else has said 'thank you' too .
and also, because i know i'm embarrassing the shyte outta ya.
lol .
Dave thinks he can distract us with beautiful home-made art projects created on a Mac.
Part 6!!
Thanks for sharing this so far. Lots to digest...
Odrade
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what is the most martyr-like effort you ever made as a jw to preach door-to-door...?.
frannie b
not my experience, but a couple years back at a D.C. there was a couple there who had a 3 day old (4 days when we met her) baby with her. And they weren't local, so they travelled with, and were staying in a HOTEL with a 3 day old baby. can we all say "idiots!?"
Odrade
occasionally, i will see some of our members post some incredible emoticons, some of which crack me up but good.. anyone have any hilarious emoticons they'd like to post, or perhaps a link to some?.
there was one, where it showed one emoticon following another emoticon hammering him on the head.
i used to love that one.. any takers?
tried to fix the above emote, I'm a computer doof too, so here's snoopy instead.
and I am off to
Nite all!
Odrade
occasionally, i will see some of our members post some incredible emoticons, some of which crack me up but good.. anyone have any hilarious emoticons they'd like to post, or perhaps a link to some?.
there was one, where it showed one emoticon following another emoticon hammering him on the head.
i used to love that one.. any takers?
New avatar for Craig:
LOL!
And here's one for him to edit...
on september 8, 1963 my sister, carmen elizabeth was born.. she was, and would remain the only girl in our family.
she was so adorable, brown haired, brown eyed and had a great smile.
she was less than a year younger than i, and we were like the 'best of pals' as kids.. she'd allow me to put beans in her ears, or get her to put peas in her nose or carrots on top of her teeth, and make me laugh.. she was born in cape breton, nova scotia.
((((((Ray))))))) there are no words... it's clear you loved her very much. So sorry there weren't more years.
this was sent to me when i stopped attending meetings after the "sunday' show went to air in australia regarding sexual abuse of children in the wt organisation, of which one of my children was victim of.
the bold print is my added comment.. .
so, how was the rest of your day yesterday?
plmkrzy, I LOVED this typo:
ridiculous attitude adjustment via JC meeting for miss conduct
It's a great description. I think the brothers are starting to come after us for "miss" conduct. "Um, you've been missing all the meetings, what's keeping you away..."
Heehee, have to remember that. I'm calling it that now instead of "falling out."
Odrade (almost signed my real name I'm getting so comfortable here. LOL!)
occasionally, i will see some of our members post some incredible emoticons, some of which crack me up but good.. anyone have any hilarious emoticons they'd like to post, or perhaps a link to some?.
there was one, where it showed one emoticon following another emoticon hammering him on the head.
i used to love that one.. any takers?
