I guess this was just a funny, comic thread, wasn't it? I mean, your whole point was how rude someone was to you, and you punctuated that by your exaggerated rudeness and self-entitlement. Irony is wonderfully comic, isn't it?
Posts by Odrade
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277**** Some people don't teach their children manners. Grrr. ****
by FlyingHighNow ini had an hour to kill before picking julian up at a birthday party, last friday.
so, i decided to go relax at the library.
"when i was a child, we gave up our chairs for adults.
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**** Some people don't teach their children manners. Grrr. ****
by FlyingHighNow ini had an hour to kill before picking julian up at a birthday party, last friday.
so, i decided to go relax at the library.
"when i was a child, we gave up our chairs for adults.
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Odrade
Oh, I see, you wanted all 5 of the family to squish on the sofa, so you could have one of the 4 chairs. Remind me again, weren't there still TWO chairs?I suppose you measured the sofa, and have the right to dictate how many people are comfortable on it.
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**** Some people don't teach their children manners. Grrr. ****
by FlyingHighNow ini had an hour to kill before picking julian up at a birthday party, last friday.
so, i decided to go relax at the library.
"when i was a child, we gave up our chairs for adults.
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Odrade
Well, it would be in character, wouldn't it? By the way, I agree 100% with (****)EVERYTHING(****) Scully said.
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**** Some people don't teach their children manners. Grrr. ****
by FlyingHighNow ini had an hour to kill before picking julian up at a birthday party, last friday.
so, i decided to go relax at the library.
"when i was a child, we gave up our chairs for adults.
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Odrade
Changing your story now? Boy you really ARE a victim.
"sofa, 2 comfychairs and ottomons. I walked up, to find a woman with a child leaning on her, sitting on the sofa. I noticed a backpack lying on the floor. I went to sit down and the woman says, while gesturing her hand & arm around the area, "Uh, we have this whole area. I have four kids and we need the whole (long, big enough for three more kids) sofa and those two chairs."
So there were 5 individuals, and two chairs with ottoman, and one sofa. Sounds like 5 seats to me. Sounds like 5 people to me. (Or are you changing your story now and claiming she was using 9 actual seats for 5 people? ) Sounds like she and her family were there first. Sounds like there were other places for you to sit, but you wanted to get your dig in first because the lady didn't want to take her whole family and go somewhere else for YOUR convenience.
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A real (Christian) man speaks: The Words of God Do Not Justify Cruelty To Women
by SixofNine inthe words of god do not justify cruelty to women.
jimmey carter.
the observer, sunday 12 july 2009. .
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Odrade
Incredible, thanks. I'll put up the rest:
"I understand, however, why many political leaders can be reluctant about stepping into this minefield. Religion, and tradition, are powerful and sensitive area to challenge.
But my fellow Elders and I, who come from many faiths and backgrounds, no longer need to worry about winning votes or avoiding controversy - and we are deeply committed to challenging injustice wherever we see it.
The Elders have decided to draw particular attention to the responsibility of religious and traditional leaders in ensuring equality and human rights. We have recently published a statement that declares: "The justification of discrimination against women and girls on grounds of religion or tradition, as if it were prescribed by a Higher Authority, is unacceptable."
We are calling on all leaders to challenge and change the harmful teachings and practices, no matter how ingrained, which justify discrimination against women. We ask, in particular, that leaders of all religions have the courage to acknowledge and emphasise the positive messages of dignity and equality that all the world's major faiths share.
Although not having training in religion or theology, I understand that the carefully selected verses found in the holy scriptures to justify the superiority of men owe more to time and place - and the determination of male leaders to hold onto their influence - than eternal truths. Similar Biblical excerpts could be found to support the approval of slavery and the timid acquiescence to oppressive rulers.
At the same time, I am also familiar with vivid descriptions in the same scriptures in which women are revered as pre-eminent leaders. During the years of the early Christian church women served as deacons, priests, bishops, apostles, teachers and prophets. It wasn't until the fourth century that dominant Christian leaders, all men, twisted and distorted holy scriptures to perpetuate their ascendant positions within the religious hierarchy.
I know, too, that Billy Graham, one of the most widely respected and revered Christians during my lifetime, did not understand why women were prevented from being priests and preachers. He said: "Women preach all over the world. It doesn't bother me from my study of the scriptures."
The truth is that male religious leaders have had - and still have - an option to interpret holy teachings either to exalt or subjugate women. They have, for their own selfish ends, overwhelmingly chosen the latter.
Their continuing choice provides the foundation or justification for much of the pervasive persecution and abuse of women throughout the world. This is in clear violation not just of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights but also the teachings of Jesus Christ, the Apostle Paul, Moses and the prophets, Muhammad, and founders of other great religions - all of whom have called for proper and equitable treatment of all the children of God. It is time we had the courage to challenge these views.
• Jimmy Carter was US president from 1977-81. The Elders are an independent group of eminent global leaders, brought together by Nelson Mandela, who offer their influence and experience to support peace building, help address major causes of human suffering and promote the shared interests of humanity."
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**** Some people don't teach their children manners. Grrr. ****
by FlyingHighNow ini had an hour to kill before picking julian up at a birthday party, last friday.
so, i decided to go relax at the library.
"when i was a child, we gave up our chairs for adults.
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Odrade
Wow, I just finished the whole thread. Well, at least we know now that your rudeness and entitlement isn't limited to women and children in Public Libraries. Scully, I agree 100%. Children should be taught manners, but they shouldn't be required to be doormats. FHN, you did NOT need those seats, no matter how much you protest that you had to examine your 7 books sitting down in a particular chair. You had no right to demand that you be able to evict them from their spots.
I suppose when you go to the food court you expect the mothers to vacate their tables for you, since you are an "adult" and every child must give up their seats for you? Maybe when you go to the park, you expect nannies and their charges to give you the park benches and picnic tables so you don't have to walk to another one?
Okay, now go ahead and accuse me of menopause or being on my period. Because that seems to be the appropriate defense.
Of course, if you had EIGHT books to examine, you might have had a point.
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**** Some people don't teach their children manners. Grrr. ****
by FlyingHighNow ini had an hour to kill before picking julian up at a birthday party, last friday.
so, i decided to go relax at the library.
"when i was a child, we gave up our chairs for adults.
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Odrade
Haven't read the thread yet, but it strikes me, FHN, that you were rather rude to the woman on the couch, and very judgmental with your "looks" and your comment. I would venture to guess that your snippy and entitled behavior had a much greater impression on the woman and her children, than any "message" you felt you were imparting.
But... maybe you've changed your mind in 5 pages and don't feel the need to brag about how self-righteous right you were. I can hope. Okay, off to read the thread now.
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Odrade
Yes, when no one's around.
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"Our dear Watchtower .... our precious magazine..."
by drwtsn32 ini received this vomit-inducing email from a jw:.
i had the tonight show w/ conan o'brien playing in the background, at first i was shocked to hear what i heard, yet very happy to see what was being prominently displayed in public view for the entire world to see (as the show is syndicated internationally)!
yup, the study version of our dear watchtower with the words announcing jehovah's kingdom prominently on the front cover.
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Odrade
I'm cracking up at the comments... 'conan should know that is our PRIVATE version and we'd NEVER offer it in public, joke is on HIM'
Haahahaha! OMG, like that is a point of recommendation, are they kidding?
This one is priceless: "at least we are known for being clean and neat." LMAO!!! Okay, then.
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Sending Out a Letter to My JW Daughter - Give Me Your Thoughts Please
by flipper insome of you probably read my jw daughter's letter to mrs. flipper and me a few weeks ago where she tried explaining to mrs. flipper why she doesn't have anything to do with me ( says i talk negative towards the organization ) .
in that letter though she showed some flashes of her authentic, kind personality and told us she loves us.
but much of the letter was proselytizing to us about how bad the system is and how jeovah will bring a paradise, etc.
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Odrade
"I preferred to use Steve Hassan's methods of just talking in an authentic way to my daughter without discussing the witnesses"
Hassan has never advocated a complete avoidance of the issues. I believe you are misinterpreting this suggestion as a recommendation for conflict avoidance. Instead, he recommends finding the authentic personality by having loving, but non-confrontational discussions with them. He suggests presenting small ideas and facts in as neutral way as possible, to get a cult-indoctrinated person to think with their own authentic internal voice. Avoiding the issue entirely, even when directly queried, is tantamount to telling the person that their concerns are irrelevant.
In the end, people, including Flipper, are going to do what they want, for their own reasons. It is to be hoped that they are not deluding themselves so that they can be more comfortable on the path of least resistance. It is also to be hoped that they are not presenting this distortion/misrepresentation/selective interpretation, as coming from an authority on breaking indoctrination.