Apognophos... the point is there is memories from times when there is no evidence of heart or brain activity. By our current undrestanding of consciousness that shouldn't be possible.
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Evidence of life after death?
by little_Socrates inhttp://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/life-after-death-largestever-study-provides-evidence-that-out-of-body-and-neardeath-experiences-may-actually-be-real-9780195.html.
"experts currently believe that the brain shuts down within 20 to 30 seconds of the heart stopping beating and that it is not possible to be aware of anything at all once that has happened.. but scientists in the new study heard said they heard compelling evidence that patients experienced real events for up to three minutes after this had happened and could recall them accurately once they had been resuscitated.".
how are people having "experinces" while there is no evidence of heart or brain activity?.
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Evidence of life after death?
by little_Socrates inhttp://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/life-after-death-largestever-study-provides-evidence-that-out-of-body-and-neardeath-experiences-may-actually-be-real-9780195.html.
"experts currently believe that the brain shuts down within 20 to 30 seconds of the heart stopping beating and that it is not possible to be aware of anything at all once that has happened.. but scientists in the new study heard said they heard compelling evidence that patients experienced real events for up to three minutes after this had happened and could recall them accurately once they had been resuscitated.".
how are people having "experinces" while there is no evidence of heart or brain activity?.
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little_Socrates
My take... at the very least it shows we don't really understand consciousness. We may even have some fundamental misunderstandings about it. If we can find evidence showing that at least a part of our consciousness is non physical, it would at least prove that life after death would be possible. It still wouldn't prove the existance of it... just suggest that it is possible.
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Evidence of life after death?
by little_Socrates inhttp://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/life-after-death-largestever-study-provides-evidence-that-out-of-body-and-neardeath-experiences-may-actually-be-real-9780195.html.
"experts currently believe that the brain shuts down within 20 to 30 seconds of the heart stopping beating and that it is not possible to be aware of anything at all once that has happened.. but scientists in the new study heard said they heard compelling evidence that patients experienced real events for up to three minutes after this had happened and could recall them accurately once they had been resuscitated.".
how are people having "experinces" while there is no evidence of heart or brain activity?.
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little_Socrates
"Experts currently believe that the brain shuts down within 20 to 30 seconds of the heart stopping beating – and that it is not possible to be aware of anything at all once that has happened.
But scientists in the new study heard said they heard compelling evidence that patients experienced real events for up to three minutes after this had happened – and could recall them accurately once they had been resuscitated."
How are people having "experinces" while there is no evidence of heart or brain activity?
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I am sooo screwed
by Yondaime inso last night i was talking to my sister about how i admired president obama's speech to the u.n that happened earlier that day.. i then compared the extremism of isis to how much of a fanatic my jw bil is.. at the end of the statement , my mom walked in to the kitchen.
she was standing in the living room and she heard everything i said.. she called the elders that night to tell them what i said so they can counsel me.. i'm going to meet with them after the meeting on sunday!.
what do i do?!!!!!.
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little_Socrates
Wouldn't it be nice to say something like....
"see YOU are proving my case. I said something that makes you unconfortable and you have call me into the back room. No other religion trys to control their memebers thoughts. I am a good JW I just like to think for myself and say provacative things to help others think for themselfs as well."
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Are first world countries to blame for the bulk of third world squalor?
by tootired2care inthroughout several past threads various posters have emphatically made the point that countries like great britian, united states, france etc.
basically countries where white people exist, are to blame for the poverty in many other third world nations.
some have even went so far as to suggest that the first world is to blame for all third world conditions.. i often see excuses such as these for why a country refuses to provide clean water, some food and basic sanitation for its people:.
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little_Socrates
Why has the USA been so sucessfull in overcomming its own colonialism? Is it simply that we have been "free" longer?
India has only recently recieved her independence. Why is she doing so well?
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"Jehovah's Witnesses do better after surgery without transfusion" - Article (July 3, 2012)
by Da.Furious inthis article from 2012 published by the birmingham news showed up on my facebook page.. what i would have liked to see in the statistics is the inclusion of total jws refusing blood transfusion and their survival rate not only the ones taht surviced, taking about only survivors is not like for like comparison in my opinion with patients who take blood transfusion and then dont survive.. .
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little_Socrates
Of course taking sombodies elses bodily fluids and pumping them into your body isn't really "good" for you. Often your body treats the blood as a foreign pathogen. Blood transfusions can take weeks or months to recover from. Also if the surgeon knows you will refuse blood he/she will be much more carefull with your surgery.
On the other hand... if you need a transfusion you need a transfusion.
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One Day Assembly Costs How Much, WTF?
by NoMoreHustle inthe recent circuit assembly day cost get this... $17,0000 in an assembly hall that they own!
this was announced during the assmbly at the 3/4 mark of days activities.
after he said how much the assembly cost, he then proceeded to say that we have recieved $6,000 in donations up to this point of the day.
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little_Socrates
Do these buildings just sit vacant when there are no assemblies going on? Why can't local conegrations use the buildings in the "off season"?
Do you really call 500-700 people an assembly? I know lots of Churches that would be disapointed if that is all that showed up for a regular Sunday service.
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EBOLA -why should America take the lead in handling it?
by hamsterbait inmillions have died in africa from civil wars where the governments have squandered money on bombs guns and tanks, whilst allowing millions more to die of malaria, diarrhoea and other treatable diseases.
thousands more have died in nigeria from religious killing than ebola.. and now big bad america is the one they all turn to (in mainly muslim countries) to save them, just like kuwait did in 1991.
(condemned after for their interference).
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little_Socrates
Just a bit of heads up so you know if the excrement is about to hit the fan.
#1 Somebody catches the virus that has never been to Africa
#2 Somebody catches the virus from an uknown contact (outside of Africa)<- If this happens anywhere near you assume the virus is everywhere and it wil be time to head for the hills.
Life as you know it would radically change very suddenly some time between those two events, if not from the virus itself but by the actions of your government. In Libera they suddenly force quarented 70,000 people. They recieved no warning to stock up on supplies.
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EBOLA -why should America take the lead in handling it?
by hamsterbait inmillions have died in africa from civil wars where the governments have squandered money on bombs guns and tanks, whilst allowing millions more to die of malaria, diarrhoea and other treatable diseases.
thousands more have died in nigeria from religious killing than ebola.. and now big bad america is the one they all turn to (in mainly muslim countries) to save them, just like kuwait did in 1991.
(condemned after for their interference).
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little_Socrates
Giordano excpt what you are saying about how it is spreading is NOT born out by the facts. While I don't think there is evidence of regular spread by air, there IS lots of evidence of spread through very casual contact. Norovirus does not spread by air... but we all know how easily and fast that virus spreads.
This is why this important. If the current rate of spread contenues there will hundreds of thousands of cases by December and will will be in the millions of caes in the first half of next year. Even if it stays in Africa there is still the potential of millions of deaths.
With several hundred thousand cases by December do you really think they can keep it in africa?
Every month you wait to act... the estimated cost of containing this grows by tenfold. We might already be too late, I pray we are not.
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EBOLA -why should America take the lead in handling it?
by hamsterbait inmillions have died in africa from civil wars where the governments have squandered money on bombs guns and tanks, whilst allowing millions more to die of malaria, diarrhoea and other treatable diseases.
thousands more have died in nigeria from religious killing than ebola.. and now big bad america is the one they all turn to (in mainly muslim countries) to save them, just like kuwait did in 1991.
(condemned after for their interference).
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little_Socrates
Hamsterbait I totally hear what you are saying. However in this particular case... the potential for a horrific outcome is so great for the entire world we HAVE to do what ever we can. As soon as we have moved from the crisis phase THEN it will be time to talk about the politics of it.