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  YOUNG EARTH?

  by Terry in

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  young earth creationists (like dr. john morris) are taken to task in an article producing the following statistics:.

  let's begin with today's population of the earth (estimated) 6,623,924,220. call it 6 billion.. now, let's go back to noah and his family after the flood.

  but--let's take the baby steps necessary to get from 8 people to our goal of 6 billion.. why?

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  Viviane

  That's nice, Vanderhoven, but it doesn't connect the dots to a young earth. You still have to show us why it fits.
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  Does consciousness end with the death of the body

  by givemejustalittlemoretime in

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  2. bible

  apparently, the carvakas in anceint hinduism were materialists and skeptics, arguing that consciousness ends with the death of the body and that therefore we should take pleasure in this life while we possess it and practice compassion toward others.

  they also argued that direct observation is the only certain way to know anything, and thus the existence of supernatural forces and realities cannot be established and must be rejected.

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  Viviane

  I'll address it, Perry.

  Your statement "The experiments PROVE that not only is human observation and planning ALONE the determining factor, but also time and distance is irrelevant:".....

  Let's talk about that. That statement alone is pretty good evidence that you neither understand the experiment, the inplications or what you are saying. The "observer effect" you are referring to can be re-created with a measuring device and disappears on large scale.

  Time and distance are in fact relevant in wave function collapse. What you are trying to say, without knowing it, is "at some small scale, it's possible for there to be a quantum superposition of states. Therefore, Jesus."

  The fundamental problem with that is you've got no connective tissues, nothing binding it together, no evidence.

  Back tothe drawing board for you.
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  YOUNG EARTH?

  by Terry in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  young earth creationists (like dr. john morris) are taken to task in an article producing the following statistics:.

  let's begin with today's population of the earth (estimated) 6,623,924,220. call it 6 billion.. now, let's go back to noah and his family after the flood.

  but--let's take the baby steps necessary to get from 8 people to our goal of 6 billion.. why?

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  Viviane

  The Encyclopaedia Britannica claims that by the time of Christ, the world’s population was about 300 million. That estimation fits far better with young earth, post Noachian population expectations than it does hundreds of thousands of years of human existence.

  Connect the dots. How does that fit better with a young earth? What evidence is there? Walk me through this.
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  YOUNG EARTH?

  by Terry in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  young earth creationists (like dr. john morris) are taken to task in an article producing the following statistics:.

  let's begin with today's population of the earth (estimated) 6,623,924,220. call it 6 billion.. now, let's go back to noah and his family after the flood.

  but--let's take the baby steps necessary to get from 8 people to our goal of 6 billion.. why?

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  Viviane

  A mere 7 billion people living today fits the young earth model, recency of first civilizations fits the young earth model, recency of recorded history fits the young earth model.

  If you see these as evidence to the contrary. please explain.

  Nope, not how it works. You have to connect the dots. Be specific in how a 7 billion person population supports a young earth. Connect the dots.
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  YOUNG EARTH?

  by Terry in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  young earth creationists (like dr. john morris) are taken to task in an article producing the following statistics:.

  let's begin with today's population of the earth (estimated) 6,623,924,220. call it 6 billion.. now, let's go back to noah and his family after the flood.

  but--let's take the baby steps necessary to get from 8 people to our goal of 6 billion.. why?

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  Viviane

  Not really. There is no bias in facts. 7 billion can only be understood as evidence relecting a young earth...this paralled with the facts of the earliest known civilizations and the earliest historical records.

  Seven billion whats? How is it evidence? Connect the dots from one thing to another. Be specific.

  Evolutionists claim that mankind evolved from apes about a million years ago. If the population had grown at just 0.01% per year since then (doubling only every 7,000 years), there could be 10 43 people today—that’s a number with 43 zeros after it.

  Letting go the first quoted sentence being wrong, can you spot what the error is in the second sentence?
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  YOUNG EARTH?

  by Terry in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  young earth creationists (like dr. john morris) are taken to task in an article producing the following statistics:.

  let's begin with today's population of the earth (estimated) 6,623,924,220. call it 6 billion.. now, let's go back to noah and his family after the flood.

  but--let's take the baby steps necessary to get from 8 people to our goal of 6 billion.. why?

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  Viviane

  It seems to me that the biblical flood event fits current population statistics far better than a non-flood history

  Of course, that's already what you want to believe. Confirmation bias.

  That is, let’s assume it takes 150 years for the population to double on average. This corresponds to an average annual percentage growth rate of 0.463% (for every 100,000 people, a net of 463 are added yearly).

  Why would he make that assumption? Did he normalize the data? Does he know what that means and why he should do it? Why doesn't he start with the biblical numbers?

  In 4,500 years there would be 30 doublings (4500/150 = 30), so those six people would grow to 6.4 billion. This is close to today’s world population of 7.1 billion.

  Ah, we see he makes that "assumption", which isn't an assumption at all, because it's the growth rate that fits the story he wants you to believe. He didn't follow the evidence or do any research, he simply did really really bad math to arrive at a pre-determined conclusion.

  Did he calculate in the Black Death? Crusades? Genetic diversity? Incest? Anything else?

  Thus the known facts of population growth fit the Biblical chronology very well.

  No, no they don't. His assumptions and and contortions have been jammed sideways into the spaces between the known facts.
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  Anti-christ

  by oldflame in

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  2. bible

  do you know who the son of perdition is ?

  do you know he is here and active today more than ever ?

  do you know that america is the mystery babylon spoken of in scripture ?

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  Viviane

  Most cant even seem to ever pull they're heads from they're asses to see the light like so many here ! You people are about as dumb as dumb can get and I am glad as hell I left this site ane I will not ever be back because this site has gone to HELL !

  It's like a Christmas miracle.
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  What is spirit, exactly?

  by Viviane in

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  i've always wondered that.

  recently i asked that question on another thread and didn't really get ananswer.

  cofty made an excellent point that we often hear what it isn't, but that really isn't useful.. so, what is it?

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  Viviane

  Human Magnetic Attraction is Spirit Interaction. No not necessarily sexual, just the connection individuals have with each other for all sorts of reasons, from short periods to life, in order to achieve the spirit's desired result.

  What is human magnetism? You've simply swapped one undefined term for another. No closer to ananswer, unfotunately.

  There's five birds on a fence, seven fly away, two come back, there's no birds on the fence. My answer will always be, "Sir you're on drugs, if two birds come back, there's two birds on the fence, or are you pissed sir?".

  Your answer should be that the premise is invalid.
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  Richard Dawkins defends “mild pedophilia,” says it does not cause “lasting harm”

  by chrisuk in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  http://www.salon.com/2013/09/10/richard_dawkins_defends_mild_pedophilia_says_it_does_not_cause_lasting_harm/.

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  Viviane

  I think the bigger issue here is Richard Dawkins giving a moral opinion in the first place. Morality isnt the subject of science, neither is he an authority on the subject itself.

  Scientists shouldn't be allowed to talk about things except their subject of expertise?
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  God Says Scripture is Enough

  by Perry in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  from the 2013 new world translation 2 tim.

  all scripture is inspired of god and beneficial for teaching, for reproving, for setting things straight, for disciplining in righteousness, so that the man of god may be fully competent, completely equipped for every good work.. .

  as jw's we must have read that scripture a thousand times.

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  Viviane

  That's good. It doesn't answer my other questions, though.