Anytime a religious person attempt to use Einstein and science to prop up their ridiculous position, you can be sure they truly understand none of the things they are talking about.
I dub it Viviane's Law.
Viviane
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Science is right in its details, but wrong in its direction
by exWTslave inscience observes, studies and analyses the basic nature of all the components constituting the part of any experiment, follows the principle of cause and effect, and come out with equipments that would contribute to our comfort and save us lots of time and energyall of which are ultimately aimed at making life on this earth happier, longer and healthier, thus making this world a better place to live.. yet man day-by-day becomes more and more unhappy and discontented, and world is becoming bitter and bitter!
it means: though science is right in its details, it has gone wrong in its direction.
it failed to rightly judge and assess the true nature of its prime object (man) for whom it works.
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A young girl shouts down a Street preacher
by fulltimestudent ingot to admit that when some of these screechers get wound up, ive felt the same as the young lady.. http://www.9news.com.au/world/2014/11/06/08/34/girl-tells-street-preacher-to-shut-up.
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Viviane
Kind of surprised that so many think this obnoxious little brat is funny!
He got what he was giving. It IS funny.
I'd be willing to bet, again, that she's the mean girl/bully in her class.
Just making stuff up, now?
Miss Disrespectful said so & so was actually bothering her, and her friends, who don't want to be her next victim, said that was correct".
So he can yell, with a loudspeaker, at random people that they are going to die, but she can't specifically say less douchey, threatening and judgmental things specifically to him?
Not how it works.
He was not in anyones face or pointing/yelling at anyone.
That's exactly what he was doing.
Her asshole parents could have kept moving and had fun doing something else.
He could have not been in the street yelling at people that God was going to kill them.
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God is not an element both in religious fanaticism and atheism alike
by exWTslave inin my intimate conversations with many of my atheists friends i have found that their real problem is the human rights abuse of the religious fanaticssomething which god hates (not the lack of proof for gods existence) (means when the religions went to one extreme, their opponents go to another extremethus god is not at all an element in religious fanaticism and atheism alike) atheists shun, belittle or resist proofs for the existence of god, because they fear it will only further strengthen the religion from which the fanaticism arisethus object of atheists attack is fanaticism (not god) .
hence what atheists do is really a service to the humanity (while fanaticism is a crime against humanity).
hence when the atheists ask for proof for the existence of god, one need not take it seriously.
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Viviane
cofty, yes I did , if one could travel at the speed of light,[after acceleration], one would arrive at the moment one left. With dire consequences also to one's girth and mass during the impossible acceleration.
Wrong. For reference, read up on spacetime and frames of reference. Please stop peddling your pseudo science woo.
Increase in speed through space decreases speed through time. With c as the upper speed limit through space and zero travel through time.
Spacetime, not space and time. And again, frames of reference.
that does not mean that time has vanished, but there is time, it was a pre-condiyion to the beginning of our universe, and there is various speeds of travel through it. In my view of thse 'givens
Spacetime.
Your view is pretending to know things that cannot possibly be know. Please stop peddling your pseudo scientific woo nonsense.
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God is not an element both in religious fanaticism and atheism alike
by exWTslave inin my intimate conversations with many of my atheists friends i have found that their real problem is the human rights abuse of the religious fanaticssomething which god hates (not the lack of proof for gods existence) (means when the religions went to one extreme, their opponents go to another extremethus god is not at all an element in religious fanaticism and atheism alike) atheists shun, belittle or resist proofs for the existence of god, because they fear it will only further strengthen the religion from which the fanaticism arisethus object of atheists attack is fanaticism (not god) .
hence what atheists do is really a service to the humanity (while fanaticism is a crime against humanity).
hence when the atheists ask for proof for the existence of god, one need not take it seriously.
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Viviane
How would you feel about that traveler?
How would you answer to that student?
That they, like you, don't understand basic logic, authority or analogies.
You may understand the principles of motion, but that does not prove the Prime Mover (who formulated those principles) does not exist.
It doesn't prove anything. Not proving something doesn't exist doesn't mean by default that it does (see above: Kalos doesn't understand logic)
but not everything moves through time. take light waves/radiation : it does not move through time, it arrives the moment it left.
Wrong.
*a recent article on bbc, "someting from nothing" reiterates that there were virtual fluctuations befor the appearance of the universe, fluctuations= time, time^2.
Also wrong.
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Bible prophecies falter?
by Kalos inwt-projected anglo-american dual world power has many times showed they are no longer dual.
latest in the series is britains inclination towards recognizing palestinian state which runs counter to us interests.
(http://mondoweiss.net/2014/10/parliament-overwhelmingly-palestinian) and now eu is poised for doing something more (http://online.wsj.com/articles/european-nations-consider-recognizing-palestinian-state-1415406076.
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Viviane
Not one Biblical prophecy has come true exactly as predicted.
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As I move further away from theWT.....
by Viviane ini've, over the years, looked into many religions.
obviously, from those that have seen me post here, i've become an atheist simply because i couldn't find any reason to believe in god.
recently, though, over the past few months, a new change has started.
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Viviane
Why abandon the Giver of Life and Source of Love, simply because you have been lied to?
You have some kind of proof that your diety is the giver of life? Please do present that.
Oh. My God.
I know, that article was amazing.
The real debate is Star Trek or Star Trek Next Gen. Kirk vs. Picard.
No love for Captain Sulu?
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As I move further away from theWT.....
by Viviane ini've, over the years, looked into many religions.
obviously, from those that have seen me post here, i've become an atheist simply because i couldn't find any reason to believe in god.
recently, though, over the past few months, a new change has started.
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Viviane
Stone the infidel! Yorickians attack!
I knew him well!
It all "Much ado About Nothing".
It's lately sounded like kids arguing over whether or not Star Wars or Star Trek is better. Who cares?
I've got my hand up! Can I comment?
Please do, Brother Fulltimestudent.
Viviane, of course, all religions are silly, cut from the same cloth, but does it follow that the universe made itself?* I remain a deist. Credit were credit is due, without worship, and anonymously.
Completely OT.
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As I move further away from theWT.....
by Viviane ini've, over the years, looked into many religions.
obviously, from those that have seen me post here, i've become an atheist simply because i couldn't find any reason to believe in god.
recently, though, over the past few months, a new change has started.
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Viviane
I've, over the years, looked into many religions. Obviously, from those that have seen me post here, I've become an atheist simply because I couldn't find any reason to believe in God. Recently, though, over the past few months, a new change has started.
All religions look silly now. For quite a while, after becoming an atheist, I held on to quite a bit of respect for religion and it's traditions and customs and eschtatology, but the further I move from having been a JW, a religious person, basically, the more I have distance between me and that life, the more I find any religious belief to just be ... silly.
Not to say I don't know and love and respect many religious people, of course I do. But I find myself giving no respect to belief in the undetectable, the unprovable, the unknowable. I find it hubris to pretend to know thing that can't possibly be know. It seems to me to be a sad and pitiable fact that people sit around and wonder and argue about whether or not Adam and Eve had Down Syndrome. I find it absolutely insane when someone says I have no morals and am going to hell because I am an atheist and then turns and demands I respect their version of their religion, as if having a belief entitles them to something.
It does not.
This move our from being a JW changed me, for the better, I think. My kids father is still a JW, recently they told me that he often blames me for them not accepting the JW religion, believing in evolution and using "independent" thinking. They said they didn't blame me. I told them I WAS responsible for that, as much as I could be, but rather than accept blame, I would list freeing their mind as one of my proudest and best accomplishements.
Anyting similar happen to anyone else?
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Religion without revelation - any examples from the past?
by EdenOne ini'm researching on the common trait of mostly every religion coming from pre-humanist times, and that would be, the notion of "revelation", that is, that at the beginning of every [i say this with caution because i'm admitting to exceptions] religion there is some sort of "revelation" from supernatural being(s) of some sort.. my question is: do you know of any example of religions from the past that you can confidently say that were exempt from "revelation"?
this is not the same as asking if there were religions without gods, or religions of nature.
i'm not even considering what i understand as philosophical-ethical systems, such as confucionism or platonism my purpose is to find out if, at the starting point of all religions of the past, there is a "revelation", or merely "observation / contemplation".
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Viviane
Jainism is one of the oldest religions and I believe it meets your requirments of no purported revelation, enlightenment from a supernatural origin, or mystical connection with a supernatural world.
"According to Jains, souls are intrinsically pure and possess the qualities of infinite knowledge, infinite perception, infinite bliss and infinite energy. [ 28 ] In contemporary experience, however, these qualities are found to be defiled and obstructed, on account of the soul's association with a substance called karma over an eternity of beginningless time"
As soon as the concept of soul is introduced, there is a mystical connection with a supernatural world.
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God is not an element both in religious fanaticism and atheism alike
by exWTslave inin my intimate conversations with many of my atheists friends i have found that their real problem is the human rights abuse of the religious fanaticssomething which god hates (not the lack of proof for gods existence) (means when the religions went to one extreme, their opponents go to another extremethus god is not at all an element in religious fanaticism and atheism alike) atheists shun, belittle or resist proofs for the existence of god, because they fear it will only further strengthen the religion from which the fanaticism arisethus object of atheists attack is fanaticism (not god) .
hence what atheists do is really a service to the humanity (while fanaticism is a crime against humanity).
hence when the atheists ask for proof for the existence of god, one need not take it seriously.
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Viviane
Katos: reading speed and intelligence are often linked.
Simon, the article was just under 3000 words. It's unpossible that it took less than 10 minutes to read that!