Viviane

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  Why were no sea creatures destroyed in the flood?

  by smiddy in

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  all the animals on earth were destroyed in the flood of noahs day apart from those in the ark ,apparently no sea creatures were destroyed in the flood , why is that ?.

  this is not an issue that only affects jehovahs witnesses , it is one that affects all beleivers that accept the bible as gods word.. obviously sea creatures were not put on the ark , no whales ,no dolphins , no fish , no krill , no plankton etc.

  you can fill in the rest .. so my question is , why were land animals / birds singled out for destruction ?, what wrong did they do to deserve this judgement against them .

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  Viviane

  But regardless, you are basically saying that God has no right to judge people.

  That is your core argument, right?

  As an aside, you do eat meat I assume.

  See a problem here?

  Nope. Explain it if you do.

  If you are holding Jehovah to a standard (protect ALL life, no matter what), you should follow it as well.

  Who said that was the standard? How about "don't randomly kill millions animals and people for no reason other than a rib lady ate a piece of fruit"?

  Have you supported just human millitary intervention? It's no different, actually, it's even better when judgment comes from God: he is outside of space time, no margin for error.

  It's very different. God claims to know all yet constantly screws up and doesn't know things, goes on murderous rampages like a two year old pitching a fit and decides to do nothing when he has the power to help the innocent.
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  The best book on biblical archaeology I've ever read

  by marmot in

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  i'm referring to "the bible unearthed : archaeology's new vision of ancient isreal and the origin of its sacred texts" by israel finkelstein and neil asher silberman.

  i think it should be required reading for anyone who deigns to defend the historicity and literal interpretation of the bible.

  (i'm looking at you singlecell).

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  Viviane

  I own that book. It's quite good, I agree.
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  Is there an ancient Christian creed that says credo in scripture?

  by kepler in

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  consider the nicene creed.

  does it mention bible?

  it does say what a christian in a universal church of the roman empire should believe though.. one day i visited a service at a fundamental church and i noticed that a video display interjected the belief in holy scriptures into what otherwise looked to me like the credo i had learned in my own church.. the notion of a credo does not necessarily stay unaltered, i admit.

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  Viviane

  The LDS church has always taken it on the chin by the evangelicals because they say it “adds” to the Bible. Well, yes, it’s true we add scripture to the Bible, like the Book of Mormon, but the shock value lies in the fact that it’s so opposed to what people have been taught by the various professors of religion.

  The LDS takes it on the chin because it's new, not because they are shocking. The LDS religion is just as idiotic, dumb and retarded as regular Christianity.
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  Should I attend Kingdom Hall meetings to discreetly "preach"?

  by CrytoJesus in

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  christians, should i attend kingdom hall meetings to discreetly "preach" to jws about the real jesus and the lies of the watchtower?.

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  i plan to go undercover and plant seeds into them.. .

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  Viviane

  Viviane, I understand why you would think that so I won't bother to argue with you on this.

  You know nothing about me. Stop being ignorant and pretending to know things you cannot possibly know.

  Are you an atheist? I'm sorta in the middle between Theism and Atheism. I've talked to you before on my very first post that I made here. Hope you are doing well. You are a person with very few words but I appreciate your contribution to the threads here.

  I am an atheist in the sense that I have no reason whatsoever to believe in any invisible spirit creature. No person worshipping any spirit creature has ever been able to reconcile known physics with the spirit world OR tell me what spirit even is.

  Thanks for your words. I am doing quite well.
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  Should I attend Kingdom Hall meetings to discreetly "preach"?

  by CrytoJesus in

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  christians, should i attend kingdom hall meetings to discreetly "preach" to jws about the real jesus and the lies of the watchtower?.

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  i plan to go undercover and plant seeds into them.. .

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  Viviane

  I am a very rational person and I know for an absolute fact God is real but so is satan.

  You're neither rational nor describing absolute facts.
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  Should I attend Kingdom Hall meetings to discreetly "preach"?

  by CrytoJesus in

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  christians, should i attend kingdom hall meetings to discreetly "preach" to jws about the real jesus and the lies of the watchtower?.

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  i plan to go undercover and plant seeds into them.. .

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  Viviane

  No.
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  What do you want for Christmas?

  by Hortensia in

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  it's ok to share your xmas wishes here -- none of us is going to buy you anything, anyway!.

  i have a list of books on my wishlist at amazon, some about critical thinking, some about knitting, some about yurok indian basketry.

  i wouldn't mind getting any of those.

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  Viviane

  Viviane, what is the difference? I would guess that "Heirloom" means wild stock, and bloodlines, similar to heirloom vegetables. What would 'heritage' be? (T-day is not such a big thing in Canada, so I'm a bit confused by the terms).

  I only discovered this existed right after American Thanksgiving. I've called 15 farms in the area (meaning a 2 hour driving radius) and they are all out. The only way I'll get one is if Santa is real and loves me. Otherwise, I will have to reserve one in August for next year. Specifically I want a free range heritage turkey. Everyting I read says they taste amazing, far better than the turkeys in grocery stores, especially if they are free range and brined.

  So, what is heritage? I am lazy and cutting and pasting:

  First of all, a quick lowdown on what heritage actually means: It does not mean organic, all natural, or free range, though a true heritage bird is probably all of those things. Heritage refers to 10 specific breeds of turkey (if you want to know what they are, click here). These breeds were raised in the U.S. prior to the 1950s, when the poultry industry began to genetically engineer (through cross breeding) the commodity, broad-breasted white turkeys most people eat today.
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  What do you want for Christmas?

  by Hortensia in

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  it's ok to share your xmas wishes here -- none of us is going to buy you anything, anyway!.

  i have a list of books on my wishlist at amazon, some about critical thinking, some about knitting, some about yurok indian basketry.

  i wouldn't mind getting any of those.

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  Viviane

  A heritage turkey, preferrably a Kentucky Bourbon Red. Not heirloom, heritage.
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  Are you an "out of the closet" atheist?

  by rebel8 in

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  i'm atheist and not ashamed of it.

  however, it is so politically incorrect, especially where i live.

  i have a legitimate concern that being out of the closet too much will hurt my career or neighborly relations--i know for a fact it probably would.. i'm really cautious about who i tell.. how about you?

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  Viviane

  Absolutely. I don't go around talking about it, but I do live in a very religious part of America. Whenever anyone brings up spirituality and religion, I politely decline the conversation twice. If they persist a third time I engage with them and explain, politely, why I don't believe in invisible, undetectable creature made of unexplainable stuff or place my face in 2000 year old goat herder stories.
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  AAWA activists burst into a Kingdom Hall in Kent!

  by raymond frantz in

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  aawa activists burst into a kingdom hall in kent.

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  Viviane

  The AAWA people are still nutjobs and kooky birds, so there's that.