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  The best reasonable, rational, intelligent discussion on religion I've ever seen

  by TerryWalstrom in

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  Viviane

  As I've already said, let's leave it alone.

  Oh, dear. No. Just... no.

  The Quran also says God may show mercy to those who do good regardless of their belief... But you ignore that completely.

  Why should that not be ignored? It doesn't portray god is a good light. It's simply another example of it's capriciousness and psychopathy.

  Let's leave the judgement of right and wrong to christ if he shows up, and time if he doesn't. I'm okay with that.

  So, unless an invisible spirit guy shows up and decides to punish bad guys, they get off free? Wow, that seems like a terrible idea.
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  When does God intervene in the affairs of mankind?

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  though many sages have tried to describe god and his purpose, the best they could do was to declare neti, neti (not this, not this).

  to the question of god, even buddha responded with silence!

  jesus declared: truth will set you free but did not say what that truth is!

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  Though many sages have tried to describe God and his purpose, the best they could do was to declare neti, neti (not this, not this).

  Agreed. Can you do any better?

  Behind this facade, there must be a grand purpose—something which religious leaders could not understand.

  Why must there be a grand purpose? Why are you eliminating a regular purpose, and petty pupose, no purpose at all, God isn't any all like what religious people think of him as or that it might not exist?
  
  

  You use the word SCIENCE as if it is an ultimate weapon near which no one can come talking about intuition. Even Einstein has gone on record saying intuition preceded most of his scientific accomplishments!
  For an intuitive mind, whether it is the individual human body or the larger cosmic body, essentially, they are made of five elements – earth, water, fire, air and space.

  Anytime anyone uses an Einstein quote to support wrong notions or religious notions or to suggest religion and science are similar, you can be sure that person doesn't understand science, religion or Einstein.
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  The best reasonable, rational, intelligent discussion on religion I've ever seen

  by TerryWalstrom in

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  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hl6e4emx-4k

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  Viviane

  The Koran is a deplorable book written by a deplorable person and commands horrible things. It deserves a huge share of the blame.
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  The best reasonable, rational, intelligent discussion on religion I've ever seen

  by TerryWalstrom in

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  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hl6e4emx-4k

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  Viviane

  What they are teaching is in the Koran. It is the source material for the bloodbath of violence and deserves a huge portion of the blame.
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  The best reasonable, rational, intelligent discussion on religion I've ever seen

  by TerryWalstrom in

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  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hl6e4emx-4k

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  Viviane

  http://www.english-grammar-revolution.com/what-is-a-pronoun.html
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  The best reasonable, rational, intelligent discussion on religion I've ever seen

  by TerryWalstrom in

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  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hl6e4emx-4k

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  Viviane

  Omg viv... Seriously. OMFG lol. GO AWAY.

  Thanks for that quote. It clearly shows that I never said abortion was deplorable. On a side note, the above chart is making a lot of sense.

  You may need this.... http://www.english-grammar-revolution.com/what-is-a-pronoun.html
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  The best reasonable, rational, intelligent discussion on religion I've ever seen

  by TerryWalstrom in

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  2. beliefs

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hl6e4emx-4k

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  Viviane

  Religion makes (and keeps) people dumb.

  State	Yes % Rate to Religious Question	Illiteracy % Rate
  Mississippi	85	16
  Alabama	82	15
  South Carolina	80	15
  Tennessee	79	13
  Louisiana	78	16
  Arkansas	78	14
  Georgia	76	17
  North Carolina	76	14
  Oklahoma	75	12
  Kentucky (tie)	74	12
  Texas (tie)	74	19

   

  State	Yes % Rate to Religious Question	Illiteracy % Rate
  Vermont	42	7
  New Hampshire	46	6
  Maine	48	7
  Massachusetts	48	10
  Alaska	51	9
  Washington	52	10
  Oregon	53	10
  Rhode Island	53	8
  Nevada	54	16
  Connecticut	55	9
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  The best reasonable, rational, intelligent discussion on religion I've ever seen

  by TerryWalstrom in

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  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hl6e4emx-4k

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  Viviane

  Plain to YOU. YOU are interpreting what you read, and now your calling that interpretation, "plain" and saying any who dont agree with you are dishonest....

  Plain to anyone who isn't denying reality. Denying reality doesn't change the realness of it. 

  Id really love for someone else to respond to you, I'm surely not the only one noticing your nonsense.

  It's not nonsense to defend reality against those who wish to pretend the Bible isn't a book of blood followed by a death cult.

  Again, your sayin it clearly means something when hundreds of millions disagree. What is clear to you is crazy to others. 

  Hundreds of millions of people thinking 2+2=5 doesn't make it true. Pretending the Bible doesn't command deplorable things doesn't change the fact that it absolutely does so multiple times in very plain language, no matter how many people believe it.

  Also, you believe abortion is deplorable amd immoral? Explanation of this possible?

  I've no need to explain something I never said.
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  The best reasonable, rational, intelligent discussion on religion I've ever seen

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  Viviane

   Lay the blame on the ones interpreting it this way, not the thing being interpreted.

  The thing being interpreted clearly commands rape, murder, slavery, abortion, genocide, theft and murder. It is a deplorable thing. There is no moral defense for this.
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  The best reasonable, rational, intelligent discussion on religion I've ever seen

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  Viviane

  You're seriously being a huge hypocrite here. Just a few pages back you were harping on me for supposedly telling people why they think and feel things, and saying only I have the proper understanding of what the books are saying, even though I never said that... 
  But here you are ACTUALLY saying what you accused me of, and saying all who disagree with you are dishonest! Lol wonderful. I feel like maybe you're entire account on this forum exists for satire, that would make sense. I can never tell satire from seriousness.

  You are claiming other Christians are wrong, the Bible and Koran do command murder, genocide, rape, abortion and slavery and 2+2 DOES = 5. 

  Perhaps the issue is that satire, logical and fallacy don't mean what you think they do.