Viviane
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God does exist here is my nonbiblical reason:
by Curious Kitten in(before you read i hope no one gets offended by the word retarted...that s how i thought when i was 13)my mom and dad are divorced and my father never helped my mother on raising us, so basically she was a single-mother.
he just abandoned my three brothers and me and my mother had to work two jobs all of the time so we never got to see her.
when we did see her it was after school, but all she did was yell at us, make food, and leave to her next job.
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Viviane
I have occasionally used recreational drugs. It was a pleasant experience. Many of my friends use recreational drugs responsibly and enjoy them. Just like anything else, they shouldn't be used by people that can't handle them. Some people can't drink, gamble, or have sex without it becoming a problem, same for drugs. -
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WALKING DEAD fans - Was that a JW at the very end of the latest episode?
by Zoos indid you see the last episode?
that nicely dressed, freshly-shaven young man that came out from behind the trees at the very end and said:.
i didn't mean to interrupt.
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Viviane
No. I would tell more, but... spoilers, sweety! -
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Neanderthal man
by scary21 inmy ex husband and father of my daughter was never baptized but is still a believer in the wt.. a couple years ago we were talking about evolution ( which he does not believe in ) i brought up the subject of the neanderthals and how we all have their dna except africans ( the ones that never left africa ).
he said neanderthals are apes and not humans and jw's do not teach that they are humans.
i said i believe they do.. in the life- how did it get here book, under the sub heading " the human family "is says " neanderthal man....... was undoubtedly human.. his response was " they are just talking about what other people believe " ahhhhh .
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Viviane
Humans ARE apes, so there actually isn't a line :D -
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The best reasonable, rational, intelligent discussion on religion I've ever seen
by TerryWalstrom inhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hl6e4emx-4k
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Viviane
in the bible redeeming is taking back. when anyone has died a physical death, God redeems their soul.
So your God created man, gave them something, and take it back when he is responsible for their painful death death and the pain and suffering he causes others. God is responsible for their deaths. That's not "redeeming". When you redeem something, get get something in exchange for what you are giving up. The people dead at the hand of your creator God get nothing back for their death. Their soul was collected in the most generous sense and stolen in the worst. They got nothing in exchange for dying painfully at god's hand.
You still worship a blood soaked raging psychopath.
I thought I had explained it. God imbued man with dignity when he was created. Then man fell. God recognizes man's dignity (in spite of his fall) and still acts to redeem him.
Again, God knew all of that would happen if he is omniscient. He created man to fall, to die, to suffer, all so he would have something to sing his praises. Your blood soaked psychopath has severe emotional issues and is the root of all of the pain and suffering, quite the monster.
Far from moral highground, god is the lowest of the worst sewer.
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Why Armageddon Now?
by Garrett ini've been thinking and here's what i've come up with.
correct me if i'm wrong, but in the bible does it not state that the word would have to be preached throughout the entire inhabited earth for a witness to all people and then the end would come?.
with the world being as vast as it is today, it would be practically impossible for the witnesses to speak to everyone in the world.
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Viviane
So. That prophecy was, indeed, fulfilled.
The Bible never says what the Gentile Times was so, no, not fulfilled. It also never said when anything would happen, who would do it or exactly what would happen, so you don't even actually have a prophecy.
No Bible prophecy has ever been fulfilled.
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Bible Christianity is Holy baloney
by Half banana inunderpinning all the claims of the jw org is a belief in the sanctity of the bible as gods word.
this holy assumption is certainly never challenged by the watchtower and neither does the believer dare to use critical thinking to evaluate the source of his or her beliefs.
the watchtower org, for obvious reasons would not do this as they would need to sell up and hand back the money were they to admit that the bible is just a piece of literature and not divine in origin.
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Four Blood Moons might be significant
by CharlieSmith1975 inhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kuqzhnx7xma.
the bible does say that the "day of jehovah" (armageddon) would be associated with the sun becoming dark followed by the moon turning to blood.
but the moon turning to blood is specific to a total lunar eclipse.
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Viviane
The big difference between me and you and everybody else is that I'M THE REAL DEAL. You talk tough, but you can match that with any authority. I have the Biblical authority that not even the WTS has
Oh, good gravy, here we go. "I am special, listen to me!"
Seen it, heard it, fails every time. If you expect to be taken seriously, you've need more than that.
But I'm higher. Trust me on that. So let's start our little competition
You're competition is with reality, not me.
QUESTION: Matthew 12:40 says Jesus was in the grave for "three nights." Jesus rose on a Saturday night. So:
WHAT THREE NIGHTS WAS JESUS IN THE GRAVE?The Bible doesn't say Jesus rose on a Saturday night. Try again. Try a less nonsensical question.
You're still competing with reality. And losing.
Now if you should decide not to play and not answer the question, dear, I'm going to have a different response for you. Trust Me. I've been at this much longer than you have, sweetie. Okay? This is just me and you, SHARING Bible topics, okay? Now try to focus for me just for a second here. Here we go:
I get your latent and hidden misogyny in your attempt to use diminutive and dismissive words. Given that your worship a bloodthirsty psychopath
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Four Blood Moons might be significant
by CharlieSmith1975 inhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kuqzhnx7xma.
the bible does say that the "day of jehovah" (armageddon) would be associated with the sun becoming dark followed by the moon turning to blood.
but the moon turning to blood is specific to a total lunar eclipse.
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Viviane
I don't get it. Lots of people believe in heaven and the Bible and all that. Are they all "crazy" also?
Crazy? No. People that look at signs and try to predict the future and make up ridiculous things about the UN, martial law, the CIA and drug and gun running are, to be sure. You're average Christian is simply not investigating reality and fortunately, apathetic to the horrors their holy book commands them to commit.
My position is to respect a person's personal journey and their experience, whether they can fit God into that or not. An atheist is still a person with feelings. If that's where his mind is right now, then that's on him.
Ah, veiled threats. Christians often to resort to those when they can't back up their ramblings with rationality and reason.
I think I annoy people because I'm intelligent and still believe.
Well, you're half right.
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Four Blood Moons might be significant
by CharlieSmith1975 inhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kuqzhnx7xma.
the bible does say that the "day of jehovah" (armageddon) would be associated with the sun becoming dark followed by the moon turning to blood.
but the moon turning to blood is specific to a total lunar eclipse.
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Viviane
Lame.//
It's not a prophecy, it's an ALERT.You've been talking Prophecy Prophecy Prophecy! in your OP and subsequent posts until suddenly now you're challenged to put your money where your mouth is and you've the ridiculous idea to say I'm lame? Seems like you're not quite sure what words mean or, if you are, willing to stand behind your own words.
I'm just SHARING what is going on with me.
Could you not? I hear from plenty of other Christians fruitcakes that want to preach the future, despite a 100% failure rate, until they get challenged. Spineless behavior like that is in abundance.
I'm just saying, be prepared. Make sure you have extra water and some non-perishables to stay at home and off the streets for a week. Doesn't that make sense? Just in case?
Yeah, except that's not actually what you are saying. Emergency preparedness is an excellent idea and I guarantee you I am more prepared than you for anything. Stop preaching and pretending it's just a general PSA on being prepared.
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Four Blood Moons might be significant
by CharlieSmith1975 inhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kuqzhnx7xma.
the bible does say that the "day of jehovah" (armageddon) would be associated with the sun becoming dark followed by the moon turning to blood.
but the moon turning to blood is specific to a total lunar eclipse.
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Viviane
They are both linked to Babylon the Great, they are BTG agencies. The scarlet-colored wild beast kills the harlot; the UN kills the BTG organizations, meaning the Federal Reserve, the Trilateral Commission, the CFR and, of course, the CIA.
Yeah, that doesn't explain anything. Try again.
But the point is, that a prophesy will be fulfilled depending on your interpretation and understanding of it. Ifyou don't like this application and you reject it, then it is not fulfilled.
Full stop. If a prophecy is fulfilled if a person thinks so, then every prophecy is a logical impossibility as someone always thinks it is and isn't fulfilled.
It either is or isn't fulfilled. It either predicts something or it doesn't. Your definition of a prophecy and fulfillment is empty and pointless.
Okay, here's how it works. There are four beasts, a Lion (Japan), a Bear (Russia) a 4-headed Leopard with 4 wings and "power indeed" (US and Allies), and a fourth beast that is ambiguous. The 4th beast represents Babylon the great that is destroyed by fire before the other nations are. When the 4th beast is killed, then the rulerships of these other nations are taken away and they are given an extension of "life" for "a time and a season."
No prophecy says any of that. Try again.
Actually, I wish you'd run to Wal-Mart and buy what I need, lots of canned goods. Then if the collapse doesn't happen, I'll pay you for it. But if it does happen, then you will have done a good deed giving a poor person food to survive. (smile)
So, no, you aren't willing to put your money where your mouth is. You've no faith in your made up prophecies.
Lame.