Posts by Viviane

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I'm an ABSENTHEIST. Are you also?
by EdenOne in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
it just dawned on me.

the existence of god can't be proved, neither is there evidence of god's inexistence.

so, i'm neither theist neither atheist.
Viviane

I agree. But that wasn't my point. The use of "absent", as I've demonstrated by using a respected dictionary (and yet Cofty and others dare to claim they know better that Marriam-Webster) can adequately describe a state of non-presence
But you gave a definition for god that DOES presuppose existence when I asked. You also didn't tell me how I would know how to objectively determine whether or not we could tell if he was here.
However, I said that if someone had a better term to positively describe a state of not being present, without presuming existence or non-existence, I was listening.
There is 1) no evidence that deity or deities exist and 2) even if they do, that we have any measurable way to objectively determine the status of their presence in the universe. This position shall be called "makes-sense-ithsm".
Seriously, that took me like, one minute.
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I'm an ABSENTHEIST. Are you also?
by EdenOne in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
it just dawned on me.

the existence of god can't be proved, neither is there evidence of god's inexistence.

so, i'm neither theist neither atheist.
Viviane

So, again, has anyone bothered to define "god" so we can determine whether it is absent or not?
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I'm an ABSENTHEIST. Are you also?
by EdenOne in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
it just dawned on me.

the existence of god can't be proved, neither is there evidence of god's inexistence.

so, i'm neither theist neither atheist.
Viviane

Has anyone actually defined "god" so we could possibly know whether or not it is present?
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Why people don't believe in God
by pressman in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
do you want to know why i think people don't believe in god?

well i believe people don't want to believe in god because they are scared.

they know that if they finally do gorge the confidence to believe in him, he might discipline them for their skepticism.
Viviane

Woah. i assure you that god does not pick clowns like that to represent him.
Again, god can tell us. And, if you are telling us this without proof, you are just as much a clown as they.
but that's why i'm trying to tell you guys that you don't have to be arrogant.
Yeah, but you are telling us to trust you, that you know what god wants and you are here to deliver this message and you are totes not a clown like those other clowns and you are here to help save us.
Clownish arrogance to the height, that.
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Why people don't believe in God
by pressman in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
do you want to know why i think people don't believe in god?

well i believe people don't want to believe in god because they are scared.

they know that if they finally do gorge the confidence to believe in him, he might discipline them for their skepticism.
Viviane

loveuni, you are proving my point. you fear god and the belief of him. why? because your human and we humans are natural wimps
Why would he be afraid of something he doesn't believe in? He said IF God were real.... you're missing the condition necessary for the fear.
As for being a wimp, speak for yourself.
what im trying to tell you is that god does not want you to be afraid. because if you just identify the true god, there will not be anything to worry about.
If god is real and loves us, it can personally tell me, not rely on a faulty messenger.
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Bible Group in Boston
by Agape.Love in
1. jw
2. friends
happy easter!

my husband and i who are former jws are starting a new bible discussion group on sundays @1pm, south of boston.

we will begin the group on sunday may 3rd.
Viviane

While the Bible may introduce you to Jesus Christ, you need to accept him, and allow him through Holy Spirit to reside in you.
Hope this makes sense.
No, it makes none. Without the Bible, the bloody, genocidal, rape, theft and murder filled OT you don't get Jesus. The Bible is the basis for your belief in Jesus and somehow some Christians decide to chuck it.
Why?
Also, what is this holy spirit? Where in you does it live? Can it be found on an MRI? What is it made of?
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Why people don't believe in God
by pressman in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
do you want to know why i think people don't believe in god?

well i believe people don't want to believe in god because they are scared.

they know that if they finally do gorge the confidence to believe in him, he might discipline them for their skepticism.
Viviane

Go to a childrens hospital and find some 4 to 8 year old little girl with a terrible ailment caused by birth defects or some terrible disease.
We have some posters here saying there is value in child rape. That's the kind of thinking "because Jesus" leads you to.
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The Bible Gods Word or Mans
by azor in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
i remember studying this book years ago and how it impacted my belief system.

i no longer believe the bible is god's word.

however i do have a couple of lingering questions on this subject.
Viviane

I'm with you Tenacious. Too many coincidences. You can add DNA to that list. DNA works just like computer programming.
This tells me you know neither how DNA works nor a computer program.
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The Bible Gods Word or Mans
by azor in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
i remember studying this book years ago and how it impacted my belief system.

i no longer believe the bible is god's word.

however i do have a couple of lingering questions on this subject.
Viviane

How about the Coriolis effect which allows for rest and night/day?
Huh? Do you actually know that the earth rotates?
Why is a hole perfectly shaped for the puddle that forms in it?
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Why people don't believe in God
by pressman in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
do you want to know why i think people don't believe in god?

well i believe people don't want to believe in god because they are scared.

they know that if they finally do gorge the confidence to believe in him, he might discipline them for their skepticism.
Viviane

you have to believe. not study, but believe. You see, studying so called evidence takes nothing from you to do. You just open a book and let your eyes twirl. Having faith takes the integrity mixed with your inner power.
Oh, my mistake. I didn't realize you were advocating being dumber to believe in God. Hippolytus you are not.