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  Talking with a young elder

  by biblexaminer in

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  2. experiences

  i had a discussion with an elder recently.

  it was interesting in a macabre sense.

  we were outside the kingdom hall on a nice sunny day recently.

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  Viviane

  Paul was exactly as much a Christian as anyone else in his era.
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  This takes the cake

  by Sour Grapes in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  today during the public talk the speaker said that satan was behind the new modern phones, which are like mini computers, so that the world would have easy access to pornography..

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  Viviane

  If he'd have been born in the 1700's he'd have been among those who said that Satan was behind the invention of the printing press because he wanted everyone to have access to printed pornography.

  Or, you know, the 1500's seeing as how the printing press was invented around 1440.
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  One of the biggest complete 180 contradictions in the SAME ARTICLE, in the 9/15 study wt "Is your conscience a reliable guide?".

  by EndofMysteries in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  if you actually turn your brain on and process what is being said, this article keeps contradicting itself.

  "jehovah god created humans with free will, that is, the liberty to choose between one option and another.neither a branch office nor the local congregation elders are authorized to make health-care decisions for a witness.

  a christian needs to remember the biblical command to keep abstaining from .

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  Viviane

  vas ist los......... Sugar Tits?

  Heck yeah, 59 double A's.
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  Talking with a young elder

  by biblexaminer in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i had a discussion with an elder recently.

  it was interesting in a macabre sense.

  we were outside the kingdom hall on a nice sunny day recently.

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  Viviane

  That you are a slave.. Like everyone else in the organization, you were born into bondage. Into a prison that you cannot taste or see or touch. A prison for your mind.....

  You really like The Matrix, eh?
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  You need to marry a ministerial Servant!

  by John Aquila in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  a single sister in her 40s and her two single daughters were visiting my mom.

  i would say her daughters are in their early 20s.

  my mom got sleepy and we put her to bed but the three sisters stayed to finish their drinks..

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  Viviane

  I would consider marrying an MS except I've met someone I'm interested in and they're not a complete moron with a shit job, so.... no.
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  One of the biggest complete 180 contradictions in the SAME ARTICLE, in the 9/15 study wt "Is your conscience a reliable guide?".

  by EndofMysteries in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  if you actually turn your brain on and process what is being said, this article keeps contradicting itself.

  "jehovah god created humans with free will, that is, the liberty to choose between one option and another.neither a branch office nor the local congregation elders are authorized to make health-care decisions for a witness.

  a christian needs to remember the biblical command to keep abstaining from .

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  Viviane

  You are no Morpheus.

  You don't get to call me sugartits like FMF, so who really is the winner?

  Also, a summary can't be longer than the think it summarizes.
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  One of the biggest complete 180 contradictions in the SAME ARTICLE, in the 9/15 study wt "Is your conscience a reliable guide?".

  by EndofMysteries in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  if you actually turn your brain on and process what is being said, this article keeps contradicting itself.

  "jehovah god created humans with free will, that is, the liberty to choose between one option and another.neither a branch office nor the local congregation elders are authorized to make health-care decisions for a witness.

  a christian needs to remember the biblical command to keep abstaining from .

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  Viviane

  So a summary of what the article actually says.

  By definition, a summary can't be longer than the thing it's summarizing.
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  Why doesn't God need a creator, while the Universe does?

  by Bloody Hotdogs! in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i asked this question of a jw that called on me yesterday: "if the universe requires a creator, why doesn't god?

  if the universe must have a beginning, why doesn't god?

  he claims to have an answer, but it must wait for next time he calls.. i'm hoping you guys can give me a heads-up as to what he will say.

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  I have a circular thought re universe expansion....if it is expanding..what is it expanding in?

  Why does it have to be expanding into anything?
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  Why doesn't God need a creator, while the Universe does?

  by Bloody Hotdogs! in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i asked this question of a jw that called on me yesterday: "if the universe requires a creator, why doesn't god?

  if the universe must have a beginning, why doesn't god?

  he claims to have an answer, but it must wait for next time he calls.. i'm hoping you guys can give me a heads-up as to what he will say.

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  Viviane

  I had a very similar conversation with a JW a few months ago. They said everything needed a creator and that creator was God. I said "So *everything* doesn't need a creator, you just said God didn't. Without any evidence, why couldn't I just as easily say that the universe was the thing that didn't need a creator instead of God?"

  They said again that everything needs a creator and my response was "Well, no it doesn't. You personally just told me that literally everything needs a creator and then told me that wasn't true. If your god doesn't need one, then you can't claim everything does, and if it's possible to exist without needing a creator, then why can't that thing be the universe? Why is it your god? What evidence do you have that your god exists without having been created? And before you go to the Bible, I can show you 20 other religions that aren't Christian that claim the same about their god, why should I believe your religious claim over theirs? You've no more evidence than them."

  They too promised to come back the next week and never did. I ran into them about a month later at a grocer and asked why they hadn't come back. They said they were looking into it.

  Slackers.
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  The extent that desperate cults will go to keep control of their youth

  by JakeM2012 in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  http://www.cnn.com/2015/10/14/us/new-york-church-assault-case/.

  (cnn)a counseling session on the spiritual state of two brothers turned physical at word of life christian church in new hartford, new york, resulting in the death of a young man and serious injuries to his brother, new hartford police chief michael inserra said wednesday.. .

  their parents, bruce t. leonard, 65, and deborah r. leonard, 59, each face one count of first-degree manslaughter, a class b felony.

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  Viviane

  Religion is a horrible influence and requires the denial of reality to pretend it's not.