as of yet, no member of the jehovah's witness faith can defend their unique beliefs.
when the dust settles, it all comes down to blind faith in men's ever-changing ideas.
this "unique belief" was not a "true teaching of the bible.
Personally I have found JW politeness soon turns to arrogance when they are confronted with questions which they are unable to understand let alone at least reason on.
But, of course the closed mindset corners the incumbent person in this way.
Best to have an open enquiring mind
The JWs are expected to " toe the line " or suffer the consequences. !!
Hope you find your answers D.O.T.
Best wishes to you .
i am beginning to see a complete unbalanced shift from one end of the spectrum to the other.
i'll use jw's as the example but this would apply to any religion and any person.
if you just accepted the jw teachings unquestionably from the governing body because you felt they were the highest authority on the matter and 'trusted' them before waking up to ttatt you may shift to the other end of the spectrum.
Very few if any major discoveries are carried out by one scientist archaeologist alone.
There will be teams of researchers some with differing views, but whatever is published or brought to our attention will have gone through a lot of scrutiny
If at a later date this information proves through further study to be incorrect, scientists will have no problem correcting or adjusting it.
All their evidence is there for anyone to accept or refute, it's up to the individual to confirm their decision to accept or otherwise.
Bible based stories require faith in fairytales by contrast.No intelligent person could make a comparison without compromising their intelligence.
In my humble opinion of course.
hello my fellow "apostates".
just wanted to say hi.
i'm still in the borg but mentally out.
Welcome F.F I'm sure you'll have a story to tell about past and current goings on.
Best wishes to you , its early days tread carefully.
i'm starting to believe the bethel higher ups are trolling us.
the outright contradictions and stuff like overlapping generation is too ridiculous.
calling out the harold camping when we did the same thing.
Big mac ....The hand of god works in obvious ways sometimes!! Lol
i'm starting to believe the bethel higher ups are trolling us.
the outright contradictions and stuff like overlapping generation is too ridiculous.
calling out the harold camping when we did the same thing.
Do you think they troll individually, or as one internet inspired body?
as of yet, no member of the jehovah's witness faith can defend their unique beliefs.
when the dust settles, it all comes down to blind faith in men's ever-changing ideas.
this "unique belief" was not a "true teaching of the bible.
The"faithful slave" , so called, have never been a faithful anything . Neither a prophet or gods mouthpiece.
They are 8 men totally caught up in the business of relicom comfortable in the knowledge that they are
bolstered by individuals too scared to question them(for the most part) I only hope more like d.o.t will
Ask questions. Cmon be brave it's your life!!
Relicom;...Religious commercialism (don't try the dictionary lol).
as of yet, no member of the jehovah's witness faith can defend their unique beliefs.
when the dust settles, it all comes down to blind faith in men's ever-changing ideas.
this "unique belief" was not a "true teaching of the bible.
Heavens,.... You quote from current JW literature to uphold your G.Bs thinking.
You would have done and indeed probably did the same to uphold the "old light".
Are you prepared to change your tune in the future when the game changes again or are you confident
they the 8 men in New York have got the truth now?
It appears to me they are leading you all on a merry dance to nowhere.
Why do you pay attention to these mortals(sorry immortals lol).
By what method do they claim to speak for you?
Personally I would have to question that if I were reliant on it for my salvation.
Thankfully I'm not!!
if you are sure there is no god, do you then believe that we,our minds, are the highest intelligence?
not just of the universe, but the cosmos?.
Intelligence, gives us as a species the ability to understand learn, but also how we use that ie methodical intelligence
Are we seen as intelligent if we use our abilities in a detrimental way?
Theism has IMO been detrimental to humanity in many ways
Whereas non belief itself harms no one as there is no agenda for athiests to demand allegiance of.
And no god to defend(to the death at times)
As far as higher intelligence somewhere in the vastness of the cosmos , I think is beyond our ken.
But am I intelligent enough to say , absolutely not but who knows?
as of yet, no member of the jehovah's witness faith can defend their unique beliefs.
when the dust settles, it all comes down to blind faith in men's ever-changing ideas.
this "unique belief" was not a "true teaching of the bible.
Heavens, ...the conclusion I draw from your explanations is that you are admitting that the JWs since formation from bible students days to present have been guilty of; misunderstanding, miscalculation , misinterpretation.
That's exactly why many here are ex JWs
By your own calculations you are reaffirming what we have known for a long time, thank you for your honesty.
You mention 1975 and that as you put it"sensational and immaturally expressed expectations" did not prevent JWs from further studying and improve understanding of the bible. Then how could anyone be expected to put trust in any current or future understanding by the so called, self appointed 8 men in New York who feed you THEIR TAKE on the bible. Try working it out for yourself and see how far you get?
It must be remembered all ordinary JWs have no say on the matter(I bet they wished they had in 1975).
And it must be asked by what method did they the so called FDS come up w this sensational and immaturally expressed opinion re 1975 as well as countless other miscalculations?
This JW hierarchical method has proved time and time again to be false and misleading. Whether well intended or not.
as of yet, no member of the jehovah's witness faith can defend their unique beliefs.
when the dust settles, it all comes down to blind faith in men's ever-changing ideas.
this "unique belief" was not a "true teaching of the bible.
Heavens..Isn't HINDSIGHT a wonderful thing, allowing you to have a contemporary understandig of beliefs and instructions which are completely opposed to what was understood by the JWs at the time.
I know I was there!!
You may take these views, thats your choice.
DOT will make his choice I hope by a non biased reasoning.
He will certainly have kind support on this forum.
