Posts by Confucious

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"Worldy Girlfriend or JW Girlfriend... Help Me Choose" - ONE YEAR LATER.

by Confucious in

just under a year ago, i started this thread... .

http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/6/61598/1.ashx .

i started to date this jw girlfriend.

Confucious

Thank you guys.

The posts mean a lot to me and I felt like I've grown up a lot in the past year.

Con

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other than telling a person to run:what do you think a person (who knows nothing about the jws) needs to know if they are getting involved with a jw.what would be helpful to them to end things before they get further involved?what will help them if they decide to go further and marry this jw?what challenges would a non-jw woman have if she gets involved with the jw man?what about having children and the struggles that will develop from that?.

if you think of anything else that would be halpful please add it to the thread.

i would like to have a lot of this info in one thread besides some of the great "dating a jw" threads we already have in the best of section.

Confucious

Lady Lee,

Please check this out...

http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/7/78290/1.ashx

Confucious

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"Worldy Girlfriend or JW Girlfriend... Help Me Choose" - ONE YEAR LATER.

by Confucious in

just under a year ago, i started this thread... .

http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/6/61598/1.ashx .

i started to date this jw girlfriend.

Confucious

Just under a year ago, I started this thread...

http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/6/61598/1.ashx

It was entitled, "Worldly Girlfriend or JW Girlfriend - Help Me Choose."

In a nutshell, I was dating a "worldly" girl at the time. I was doing the fade.

Then an opportunity came about to date an active JW girl.

That was about ONE YEAR AGO.

After reading Lady Lee's post about JW Dating, I decided to give an update...

First of all, I did leave my "worldly" girlfriend. (and by the way, I find that term worldly offensive)

I started to date this JW girlfriend.

Pretty much it was a disaster...

Let me explain.

I knew this girl when I was a MS and a Pioneer. She's a very sweet girl.

She knew about my problems with the elders and the stuff.

She was really receptive to my point of view.

She was also very respectful AT FIRST to me not going to meetings and all that.

Really, her attitude did make me want to go to the meetings again. And I did so lightly.

We were really good together. Great friend, etc.

But the closer we got to being engaged, the more she started pressuring me to comform back to dub ways.

One issue was my hair.

I wear it long and I like it that way.

She wanted me to cut it.

The other thing, was she would pressure me about going to meetings and stuff.

Quite frankly, I wouldn't mind being married to HER.

But it would have to be a "I respect YOU and your views. You respect MINE and my views" type relationship.

The closer we got to engagement, the more she pressured me.

Not only that, we kept it a secret from the congregation all this time.

I'm not DA or DF, but I'm not going to meetings. And it's pretty clear that I'm not comforming to their ways.

Mostly because, as Paul said (I think it was Paul) - "As for me. I cannot stop speaking about the things saw and heard."

Sorry. When I thought the "truth" was the truth. I shouted it out from rooftops as a Pioneer.

When I find out the truth about the "truth." I will also shout it out from the rooftops.

Anyway, it was a big dissapointment.

I got to the point where I had her diamond ring picked out and sent to the jewler.

It was a 2 carat heart shapped diamond ring and I had it designed and everything.

Less than a week after I ordered it, I just broke off the whole relationship.

I fully respect EVERYTHING she is doing in "the truth."

I feel she has a pure heart and serving with a pure heart.

But to question my faith and what I KNOW NOW??? Was too much.

I told her that for me to go back to the Hall and play their games - you would think LESS of a man of me in the long run.

It would be no different than me "Playing the Mormon" game if she was a Mormon and I knew 100 percent in my heart that their way is not the correct way.

Sure, it would make things pretty on the outside. But what kind of person can't even be true about what he knows and FEELS is right about worship of God???

Anyway, it was a major dissapointment in my life. Because the relationship DESERVED more than that.

Well, since then, I've found someone new.

She has NO TIES to the WT.

She is incredibly pretty.

She has incredible qualities. She's serious when she needs to be and fun.

Most of all, I can be myself with her.

Confucious

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Threw Away My Last JC Penny's Suit Tonight...

by Confucious in

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kind of a milestone of sorts.

not that there is anything wrong with a jc penny's suit.

it's just that this was the "status quo" kind.

Confucious

Kind of a milestone of sorts.

Not that there is anything wrong with a JC Penny's suit.

It's just that this was the "status quo" kind. (All guy dubs will know EXACTLY what I mean by it.)

The last couple of times I've went to the meetings, I stopped wearing them anyway.

In fact, I stopped wearing a tie.

Not so much out of disrespect, but I found that there are a lot of ways to look formal and respectful without wearing one.

As I look back, to me it's just amazing how you were totally judged by your outward appearance.

You could tell exactly how "strong or weak" you were in "the truth," based upon how well you fit into the mold.

I guess I'm not surprised.

I remember my first counsel on fitting "into the mold."

It was in the 80's, and part of the fashion then was wearing shoes with no socks.

Not that I was enslaved to fashion at the time, but we lived in a coastal region and socks were optional all the time anyway.

I guess it's just funny how you exchange one fashion trend, just to be enslaved to another fashion trend - their's.

And I can't really remember all my thoughts back then. But I believe it was to the affect of - WTF???

"I mean, here I am changing my life over - and the most important thing is how I dress???"

Anyway, thanks for letting me rant a little tonight.

I feel a lot better.

Confucious

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Long-time lurker introduction

by Momof4 in

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i wanted to say hello and introduce myself.

i am probably one of the longest lurkers here ever.

i've been lurking for almost three years now, and i enjoy reading a lot of the posts.

Confucious

Mom, Welcome!!! Please keep posting!!!

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A dumb fluff question

by gumby in

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i don't usually do these threads.....but i'm gonna do it anyway dammit!.

me thinks me needs some vitamins/ minerals as i feel worn out way too much these days.

im 50. what can i get over the counter and without driving to mexico or china to get it that has worked for you?

Confucious

Funny stuff here, but on a serious note...

I'm on Paxil, so my energy gets sapped really easy.

I have a rule. No carbs during the day, accept salad.

Carbs if I want at night.

And on Sunday, when I'm home all day. CARBS galore!!!

Really works.

It gets me through the day.

But as soon as I eat carbs, I get really sluggish.

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Snipits from Sept 2004 KM's

by qwerty in

i don't think i am breaking any copyright law here by retyping (quoting) a small section from the km.. just look what tactics the organisation are using by appealing to the consience of those trapped!respecting jehovah's authority.

with what do you associate the ancient names korah, dathan, and abiram?

rebellion!

Confucious

What really gets me with this type of thinking is that they PUT THEMSELVES in the seat of Christ.

To ME, the more proper application is...

"As for US, we cannot stop talking about the things we have SEEN AND HEARD."

Please (to the WT appologists), STOP refering to things I say and do and STOP EQUATING this with disloyalty to the Christ.

On the contrary, it would BOTHER my god given conscience to do some of the WT things.

It AMAZES me that the average dub doesn't see the double standards here.

When I first came into the truth, my LOYALTY ALWAYS lay with Loyalty towards God.

My attitude was, this IS THE TRUTH. And I will keep doing this until I find "another" truth.

When I stumbled upon the things I learned here on the Internet - I learned that that some of the theology is SERIOUSLY flawed.

Gawd. For me right now to go back to some of those ways would be a SIN on my behalf. THAT IS... Knowing what I know NOW>

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Responding To Restraining Order and the Charges It Contains

by Corvin in

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i was served a restraining order by the local sheriff from my jw x -wife.

i know without a doubt this is a small maneuver to block me from picketing at the kingdom hall and exposing her lies and bullcrap.

while nancy is in the hospital recovering, the other two girls are now completely indignant and ready to help take this thing head on.

Confucious

Corvin,

I almost can't bear to read this.

Confucious

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Buying a new Home...I hope...dream

by Crooked Lumpy Vessel in

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me and hubby have been looking at some model homes and they were so beautiful...i am completely sold.

we have built over 150,000 in equity in the last 3 years, so it looks like my dream home might be a reality.

this is something i would never have thought of in my earlier jw days.

Confucious

Only tip... Sell the old home before you buy the new.

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The "Love Bombing" stare...

by Confucious in

let me explain the phenomenon... .

a few months ago, i went to a meeting.

i'm not df or da, but did the fade.

Confucious

Dorothy,

I know.

There was this Pioneer sister that was the meanest person. But put her in front of prey...