Posts by StarTrekAngel

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I don't want the Watchtower's version of paradise.

by StarTrekAngel in

i am writing this in the hopes that it may help someone in a debate.

i personally have not had a chance to discuss it with anyone but that is true for most other topics.

i think is a good one to analyze.

StarTrekAngel

And the sea urchins will turn their spikes into plowshares and help recover the marine flora for eternity.

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Serious question about the Australian RC and the WTBTS.

by DATA-DOG in

i have not been in a position to watch all of the interviews, so i'm sure that i missed a few things.

here is my question.

were either elders or ministerial servants accused of sexually abusing children, or were the accused just lowly r&f publishers or bible studies?

StarTrekAngel

At least one of the accused was an elder. They did not analyze every case. Just one of the most representative. Have you at least read the story? is crazy!

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Please reach out to Te New Yorker

by Jonathan Drake in

i have found an article on their website that moved me to contact them.

i share it here hoping more will contact in a similar vein and maybe we can raise awareness and tear down this propaganda.

i'm writing regarding an article about jehovah's witnesses and their blood transfusion doctrine, found here:http://tinyurl.com/pxku9dgit is clear to me, reading this article, that it's writer is either profoundly ignorant or profoundly biased.

StarTrekAngel

I would like to see exactly how much of this bloodless medicine really came about as a result of the JW doctrine. I don't deny that it may have an influence but an entire medical field of research is not going to come about just because of you religious belief. Blood has always been a high demand organ with the difference that donating this organ can be done many times over by the same individuals. It seems just natural to me that the medical community was bound to one day come up with a replacement just like they are looking into creating livers and kidneys without a donor. So may be the group had a benefit from it but what needs to be pointed out is that the WT probably saw the way out on this bloodless medicine. They probably have know for sometime of the latent liability they have on the matter and that the only way out is to hope that science will finally catch up to the problem and release them from having to admit they were wrong and killed so many people.

Can I assume this woman is the wife of David Schaffer?

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I don't want the Watchtower's version of paradise.

by StarTrekAngel in

i am writing this in the hopes that it may help someone in a debate.

i personally have not had a chance to discuss it with anyone but that is true for most other topics.

i think is a good one to analyze.

StarTrekAngel

I am writing this in the hopes that it may help someone in a debate. I personally have not had a chance to discuss it with anyone but that is true for most other topics. I think is a good one to analyze. If you feel the reasoning has flaws, feel free to point them out.

The version of paradise portrayed by the WT is very much known. We could probably draw it with our eyes closed. In WT teachings, this paradise as we picture it, is supposed to represent earth and life on it as Jehovah intended it to be. We are told that the time will come when we would work together to extend this paradise to all earth as it was supposed to be done by the first couple.

After growing a bit older and having the opportunity to travel more and learn more about the different habitats, I've realized one thing... I love this paradise just the way it is!!!. I would not change it a bit. I visited some beautiful places more than once and I've realized that they look so much different in each season. I've also realized that some of the natural forces that we may call "destructive" are also the drivers of change. The change they bring about can also be beautiful. They impact the land as much as they impact the biodiversity of the area.

But off course as a JW I also realized that what I like what Jehovah says is best can be quite different. Obviously that is a good thought stopping device, because I could not see some things that were right in front of my eyes...

Why then, considering the diversity of colors, tastes, smell, races and biodiversity, do we have to conclude that the earth should look the same everywhere? Why should it all be green have the same animals? Why the same weather everywhere? Would a God of diversity want the whole planet to be the same? or would it make more sense for it to change constantly? Why demonstrate such affinity for variety to then make a creation that would never change? Would not it make sense to use evolution and adaptation as a tool for creating a dynamic planet? one that changes and where humans can spent time in the wonderful journey of constant discovery?

If the above describes the earth as it is today, is not coincidence. I have to say that if you don't believe in God, that is fine, but I want your opinion on wether this would be a good argument to bring up to a JW

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"We have and awesome Judicial System" says elder during public talk

by StarTrekAngel in

so as usually unavoidable, i was seating at the wt meeting this sunday.

we've got there about 15 min late.

i don't know the title of the talk but when we got there, brother elder was talking about experiences of families that have simplified their life to support these old men, i mean, to serve the kingdom more.

StarTrekAngel

LOL... my comment was sort of to show the fun her and I have sometimes. She is not your typical hard line JW but at the same time she has a hard time acknowledging this is a cult. As soon as we got to the paragraph of immoral thoughts and the potential danger, we started texting each other (mind you we are seating next to each other) and we did it all that same night. Ok, I admit it, we did some of it in the morning before the meeting.

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"We have and awesome Judicial System" says elder during public talk

by StarTrekAngel in

so as usually unavoidable, i was seating at the wt meeting this sunday.

we've got there about 15 min late.

i don't know the title of the talk but when we got there, brother elder was talking about experiences of families that have simplified their life to support these old men, i mean, to serve the kingdom more.

StarTrekAngel

So as usually unavoidable, I was seating at the WT meeting this Sunday. We've got there about 15 min late. I don't know the title of the talk but when we got there, brother elder was talking about experiences of families that have simplified their life to support these old men, I mean, to serve the kingdom more. Funny, one of the experiences was a couple that had been pioneers for 30 years and had a lavish lifestyle. After one assembly they decided, allegedly on their drive back home in their luxury car, that they had been living a greedy life not worthy of a christian. My question is why did it take them 30 years to realize (if it is so right) that they were "greedy".

Anyway, the comment to highlight was the elders examples of ways in which we can serve the kingdom more. One, off course, has to do with helping out in construction. Almost in a back to back manner he first mentioned how all these material things we have will not survive the big A but apparently the WT properties will. This is not me being sarcastic, he actually alleged to it. After explaining that nothing material that we have will be gone because "everything will be made new", he went on to explain how much construction work is needed and how we can help. He brought up Walkill and he claims to have participated in meeting regarding this project (I am assuming he actually referred to the meeting for elders about the new KH designs) and he quoted whomever was conducting this meeting as saying "this is the HQ building for the millennium" (referring to the thousands year reign of Christ) and the elder now added (and I quote him), "so this is the one place where everything will come from, all the instruction and direction for the whole world".

What got me the most was the closing statements, as usual referring as to how great of an organization this is, he remarked how "great and awesome our judicial system is and how awesome our educational system is".

I take it this guy has no clue of what is going on

I did not pay much attention to the mag study. My wife and I were exchanging message about the immoral thoughts we had for one another. I am not kidding you, she is technically still as much in as she used to be, but I guess the study was a bit boring.

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2015 Regional Convention (Cleveland, Ohio) - No accounts report read? No video about abuse?

by My Name is of No Consequence in

i went to the convention this past weekend in cleveland with my wife and son.

most of the session was the status quo, but here are some of observations that i believe are worth noting: .

1. i did not see a lot of jw.org advertisements and the website was not mentioned a whole lot during the session.

StarTrekAngel

Sorry to disagree. Here in South Texas use to have account reports read at ALL assemblies until a few years ago. In fact, I seem to recall the reports became an issue as soon as we finished building the AH. After the first assembly hosted at the AH, we all became aware of how much more expensive the assemblies were, compared to what it used to cost when renting auditoriums. We even had an elder during one of the public talks, point out that there were complaints circulating regarding this. He did not deny that for sure we were paying more, but he pointed out how much more comfortable we had it and the fact that we no longer had to be dragging swimming pools for baptisms and etc.

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2015 Regional Convention (Cleveland, Ohio) - No accounts report read? No video about abuse?

by My Name is of No Consequence in

i went to the convention this past weekend in cleveland with my wife and son.

most of the session was the status quo, but here are some of observations that i believe are worth noting: .

1. i did not see a lot of jw.org advertisements and the website was not mentioned a whole lot during the session.

StarTrekAngel

We did not have an account report in our RC in Texas either

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Im feeling depressed

by BlackWolf in

well its been a while since i've posted on here but i guess i just need someone to talk to.

i've recently turned 16 and i guess life is just starting to hit me like a ton of bricks.

i'm still not sure what i want to do with my life.

StarTrekAngel

Try and build a support network around you, especially after you start driving around. Do please make sure you don't start hanging out with the wrong crowd. If you get hit by life, it will do nothing but to prove your JW side right and you will be right back at the cult. Make friends that somewhat resemble that "worldly" person you would have liked to be. If you want a career, try to make friends with those that get good grades, if you want to be a social butterfly, hang out with those that have that tendency. At the same time, do not concentrate in just one group, diversify but emphasize.

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Sumerian history

by StarTrekAngel in

can anyone recommend a good, updated book or documentary on the sumerian civilization?.

thanks in advance.

StarTrekAngel

Well, I am not sure Magnum. In JW land there's always been the idea that ancient civilization that had similar believes as the Jews had twisted understanding of the same teachings as the Jews, rather than being the initial proponents of the belief. I've learned before about stories like the Epic of Gilgamish but I've never read credible sources. I am more in a learning path at the moment. I am not at a point where I even have enough brain power to begin questioning more abstract things (like the existence of God).

Any read, wether on Sumerians or simply ancient and early civilizations is good.