Blackwolf, don't forget your parents are just as much of a victim of this cult as you were. Have some pitty for them. Even if you don't believe, take the objective stand and act from the perspective of someone who would, then you can slowly attempt to prove them that even then they are taking the wrong approach. Is true, you need evidence to believe in God and even the bible shows that. Don't tell them that so directly. See their answers, the think the evidence is all around them. Do some reading, take them to the bible and show them that the "type" of evidence required is not the same. Show them that almost every character in the bible has at some point demanded proof from God. I don't have much more time to type now but if you want some pointers, PM me. There is plenty of evidence in the bible that there is nothing wrong with demanding that God shows himself for what he supposedly is. There is evidence that in fact, with more digging off course, that no only God wants you to test him but that he does indeed test his followers to see if they themselves are worthy of trust from God.
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i feel more confused than ever
by BlackWolf inwell i know i've been posting a lot of topics like this lately and i'm sorry if i sound whiny or annoying.
my parents were asking me why i was so upset lately and i ended up just telling them the whole truth.
i told them i don't believe in god or the bible because i don't have any evidence of anything.
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Take the Kingdom back to Mexico!
by John Aquila inif donald trump wins the presidency, about 90% of the jws in my area will have to go back to mexico.
the watchtower will be having a fire sale on kingdom halls.
if trump became president and he followed through on his policy of sending back undocumented immigrants, would that affect the jws publisher numbers big time in the united states?
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Well, yes, if we want to take a legalistic approach, then by all means even the WTBTS is right in what it says. i don't think you can put illegal immigration in the same "crime" category as anything else. Especially not when you reap the benefits of such status. Don't be fooled. Half of the people that work at hotels, cleaning your room, may appear legal in the HR paperwork, but they are most likely not. -
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Take the Kingdom back to Mexico!
by John Aquila inif donald trump wins the presidency, about 90% of the jws in my area will have to go back to mexico.
the watchtower will be having a fire sale on kingdom halls.
if trump became president and he followed through on his policy of sending back undocumented immigrants, would that affect the jws publisher numbers big time in the united states?
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Because not even the latter is true. They are not rejects of society. I know more illegals immigrants than I know legal ones and I don't know a single one of them who has turned a criminal. In the other hand, their relatives, the ones they came to meet here, are in prison (all legal by birth by the way). Mr Trump needs to stop hating. I am not Mexican. No, nowhere even near. I am hispanic by language but not Mexican. My wife, a Mexican-American, has worked in the fields since age 12, right along with all those illegals that Mr Trump alleges to. No one was ever raped or killed. They work hard and is because of them that we can enjoy a lot of the things we enjoy today at the prices we enjoy. They are hard working family loving individuals and some americans have a lot to learn from them. When was the last time you saw a hispanic asking for a handout at a stop light? May be selling stuff, but certainly not asking for money.
Most of those that are criminal, have most likely come escaping prosecution or as part of their shady business. Happens all the time and they are a minority in comparison.
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We are celebrating b-day tonight!
by StarTrekAngel innot that we have not done it before, but the event would come about out a mutual understanding.
never a word or any more than just "we are going out to dinner".
the news this time is that my wife, out of her own initiative, suggested this morning that we should go out and celebrate our daughters b-day.
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Not that we have not done it before, but the event would come about out a mutual understanding. Never a word or any more than just "we are going out to dinner". The news this time is that my wife, out of her own initiative, suggested this morning that we should go out and celebrate our daughters b-day. She is turning 7 today. On top of that, she said so in from of my mother in law, which denied attending the celebration under the excuse that she did not feel like eating restaurant food. May be my wife is more awake than I thought... time will tell. -
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Take the Kingdom back to Mexico!
by John Aquila inif donald trump wins the presidency, about 90% of the jws in my area will have to go back to mexico.
the watchtower will be having a fire sale on kingdom halls.
if trump became president and he followed through on his policy of sending back undocumented immigrants, would that affect the jws publisher numbers big time in the united states?
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Actually, I am in a spanish cong in South Texas and the only legal immigrants in that congregation, aside from my family, are the elders and their family. This makes about an 30% legal, 70% not so legal. Many have simply overstayed their visas and the only reason the number of legals is increasing in my cong is they are having children. It used to be more like 15% legal, 85% illegal. Not saying we are the norm, but it does happen.
It was easier to judge before the assembly hall was built. You just had to compare and find out who did not make to Corpus Christi or Houston for the assembly.
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Do you believe Jehovah's Witnesses' Governing Body is the "faithful slave"?
by Marvin Shilmer inthis question is known to be posed by jws to other jws as an acid test of loyalty.
i'm not the first to notice what i'm about to point out and comment accordingly, but today i felt compelled to add a short article on my blog highlighting the new language that governing body member geoffrey jackson supplies as a response.
a person who honestly hesitates to respond with a robust "yes!
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Wow! I am amazed at the witness provided here. There is no more firm evidence than this. These JWs here have provided new light and understanding on what Mr Jackson really meant. There is no need for factual and simple understanding. God never meant to have ignorants in the midst. If you can not understand this riddle you are not worthy of living.
Oh Wait... the bible does say that your speech should be easy to understand, doesn't it? The bible does say that people were perplexed as this apostles were to be common people, right?
Or may be it is just that Einstein's basic relativity applied here as well and he didn't know it. See, even the dictionary meaning of a word changes with your perspective doesn't it?
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Do we have consensus that Mr Jackson was wearing a gold Apple Watch?
by StarTrekAngel ini mean, we have discussed mr morris' "rolex" but many also pointed out to the potential for a knock-out.
i don't think there are apple watch knock outs out there, are they?
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There is only one Gold edition watch. The others are either gray or silver color. Is either a gold apple watch or is a knock off. Has anyone seen any knock off? -
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Life after the witnesses, friends, faith etc
by Theburstbubble inhi everyone, this is my first post so go easy on me :) i have been a witness all of my life (i'm 37) and truly believed it until 3 years ago.
my husband and i had become spiritually weak and over time i began to question more and more until i came to the conclusion that the witnesses were not the true religion but just one of many religions and that if god is there then there are many paths to get to him.
anyway, i've battled with keeping going as my husband still believed and i didn't want to be in a divided household as we have a young daughter and thought it would be very confusing for her (and us).
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The only thing I disagree here is faith. Blind faith can be defined as believing something without proof. In my own awakening process, I have come to realize that God does not demand blind faith. The definition of faith in the gospels talks about expectations for the future but the rest of the bible shows that such expectation does account for the positive experiences of the past. Is sort of like a spiritual credit score in my view. Credit score for God that is, not you. -
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i made my sister cry :(
by BlackWolf inso lately i've felt so frustrated and overwhelmed that i had to tell someone how i felt.
my parents were gone so i decided to talk to my sister.
we've always been close so i thought i could trust her because we have talked about it before.
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Do we have consensus that Mr Jackson was wearing a gold Apple Watch?
by StarTrekAngel ini mean, we have discussed mr morris' "rolex" but many also pointed out to the potential for a knock-out.
i don't think there are apple watch knock outs out there, are they?
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Well, I guess I assumed that no JW would ever conceive that the WT paid for the watch. Most likely it was donated or a gift from a wealthy relative. Still a problem though. There is nothing humble about such display. First and foremost, I was trying to point out, for those that have brought this issue up before, that in the case of Morris, you could say it was a rolex knock out. In this case, does such explanation hold ground? Exhibit A.
Second, donated or not, the FDS, the leader of 8 million of JWs, can not go around stumbling others that may not be aware of how they get their perks. How would a victim of child abuse feel when he or she sees this? Is that giving a good witness to the world? No, it actually gives synergy to the poor witness he gave to the Royal Comission.