Posts by StarTrekAngel

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Frederick W. Franz and September 5, 1975

by StarTrekAngel in

http://www.jw-archive.org/post/128775480828/frederick-w-franz-and-september-5-1975#disqus_thread

StarTrekAngel

The screams of "apostate lies" have already started pouring in to the post.

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Frederick W. Franz and September 5, 1975

by StarTrekAngel in

http://www.jw-archive.org/post/128775480828/frederick-w-franz-and-september-5-1975#disqus_thread

StarTrekAngel

LOL. Yes. What I found shocking is the person posting it. I believe he or she is the site admin. She claims to have put it there for archive purposes. Doesn't it sound ironic?

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Frederick W. Franz and September 5, 1975

by StarTrekAngel in

http://www.jw-archive.org/post/128775480828/frederick-w-franz-and-september-5-1975#disqus_thread

StarTrekAngel

http://www.jw-archive.org/post/128775480828/frederick-w-franz-and-september-5-1975#disqus_thread

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WTB&TS has invested $40,000,000 in November 2007 in a Hedge fund located in the Cayman Islands, a tax haven

by sammy in

wtb&ts has invested $40,000,000 in november 2007 in a hedge fund located in the cayman islands, a tax haven.

the document is from the official website : securities and exchange commission:.

http://www.sec.gov/archives/edgar/vprr/07/9999999997-07-048801 .

One of the things that helped me wake up and begin questioning was this in part. I did not have any of the documents but as the financial crisis went on starting in 08, I could tell something was changing. Obviously I could not tell for sure because I was only exposed to my congregation and nothing else. After a few years went by I could tell, not having been a JW before, that things have began shifting almost in tune with the crisis. The pressure for more money and the constant reminders. One of the things that shocked me was the arrangement for donations where you could get a return. Apparently this is only good enough for tax planning and they never give you the details at the hall, you are supposed to call the "Office of planned donations" (or at least that is what it was called in spanish). Later on I realized that they won;t disclose the details because if you don't understand what it means, then chances are you don't have enough money to invest. The only thing they would explain is that you could make a donation and receive an annuity for the rest of your life. I could not understand how it was possible for you to donate money to a church and get something back. Doing some research later, I realized that chances are that you would never really "make money on it" but certainly would help you save on taxes. I just don't think your church should give you any kind of material benefit other than whatever you may need if you are poor.

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WTB&TS has invested $40,000,000 in November 2007 in a Hedge fund located in the Cayman Islands, a tax haven

by sammy in

wtb&ts has invested $40,000,000 in november 2007 in a hedge fund located in the cayman islands, a tax haven.

the document is from the official website : securities and exchange commission:.

http://www.sec.gov/archives/edgar/vprr/07/9999999997-07-048801 .

StarTrekAngel

Do we have any finance brains that can help us review this?

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Name Things You Can't Do If You Are JW...or not supposed to do

by minimus in

jw
friends

witnesses are not supposed to stand for the national anthem but can stand for a flag salute.. you can't say bless you if someone sneezes, good luck!, or " you too" if someone says, happy holidays.. it is a religion of cannot dos.

everything is pagan and worldly.. what are things that are unacceptable to jehovah's witnesses that really are no big deal to everyone else?

?.

StarTrekAngel

Mad Irishman,

Me and my wife do many things that are actually frowned upon. We just can't tell anyone or the judging will begin. Now do I care?? No I don't, but I know she does. You can't take this things in isolation. You can't discount the influence put on by the different constructs that you get from being there for decades.

One of the meetings this summer happened to be in one of the hottest Sundays of the year here in Texas. We 112 F in the shadow. I told my wife.. I am not going to wear my coat today, just shirt and tie. She said, why don't you just take it off right after we walk in? I said, because the heat outside is what I am trying to avoid, the inside of the KH is fine. She then asked.. Why don't you just take in your hand, put it on right before the door and take it off right after you sit down?

I rolled my eyes secretly and just put the coat on and left for the meeting.

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Governing Body member Jackson's amended statement to the Australia investigation dated 9-2-2015

by Watchtower-Free in

statement of geoffrey jackson to royal commission of australia regarding child sexual abuse.

published september 2nd.

http://www.childabuseroyalcommission.gov.au/downloadfile.ashx?guid=9d0ca1dc-1bd6-41c4-9cfc-b1d616d1cc65&type=exhibit&filename=stat.0670.001.0001&fileextension=pdf.

StarTrekAngel

I too understand it to mean literal sickness. I depart from the fact that If I am to believe in a superior, all loving, all knowing God who left behind scriptures for me to follow, with no other means of knowing he exists, then it must be easy to understand. I should not need a PHD in linguistics in order to understand what this God wants.

While one could say that the spiritual application is valid, is still referred to healing, not judging.

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Hot New Ford GT, and the GB!!

by DwainBowman in

jw
friends

ok, i was reading a story about fords new ford gt, one hot extreme muscle car.

the story tells about how a car like this normally takes 6 or more years from, first scratches on paper to finished project.

their small handful of specialist, pulled it off in 2. and right until it was finished, no one out side of the small circle of people (about 25 people ) really knew anything, except something special was in the works!.

StarTrekAngel

I believe the quick builds are one of many cases where is evident, that despite the faith being real or not, humanity can achieve great things when greed and selfishness are removed from the picture. When we all are convinced that we are working on something bigger than us for the common good of the community, we are unstoppable.

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Deconstructing Splanes 'Generation' explanation

by Splash in

at around 4 minutes into the september 2015 video splane said "for the man and the baby to be part of josephs generation they would have had to have lived at least some time during joseph's lifespan.".

this is the lynchpin of the wt argument, that two lives must overlap to be considered the same generation.. let's take an example of twins who are born just a few minutes apart.

obviously, these twins are the same generation as each other.

StarTrekAngel

I think most people don't really believe it but their cognitive dissonance makes them feel they simply don't understand it. I would not be surprised if such explanations are mostly made for borderline R&F who tend to question and scrutinize everything but are just too indoctrinated to do their own research. Most R&F are probably happy to be fulfilling Mat 24:14.

On topic, Jesus certainly was not vague about "this" generation. The importance of the generation has nothing to do with their overlap. If it did, then other examples would reflect something similar. If no other similar examples are found in the bible, then are there examples to the contrary? I believe there is.

We don't have to overextend on researching WT doctrine on the matter, but we are familiar with the parallels drawn between the deliverance of the Israelites and the one that JWs expect. The generation that left Egypt was made up of people of all ages. Likely several generations of people.

After failing to uphold their faith, in spite of having witnessed their rescue from Egypt, God condemns them by telling them they would be in the dessert for 40 years before ever entering the promise land. God had already tried to eliminate them all as he told Moises in Exodus 32:10 but Moises begged God to spare them. Wouldn't it make sense to let even the youngest of those generations die in the dessert of old age without seeing the promise fulfilled? So God did not burn them all in a second, but wasn't the outcome the same? In other words, none of the generations that witnessed the events of passover and such (Or where old enough to understand at least) seemed to have made it to the promise land. Witnessing, I believe is the keyword, not only on this accounts but in the case of Jesus' words as well as the bible as a whole. Witnessing and having proof of things has been a determining factor in many of the most significant events in the bible. Therefore I can not accept the overlapping generation teaching because the second crowd did not witness the "Events of 1914".

Sometimes I feel they are not even good liars. There are so many other things the could pin to their explanation to make it stand better ground but they are so fixated on this generation thing.

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What The Hell Couples

by Clambake in

penny and leonard.

billy bob thorton and anglie jolie.

lyle lovett / julia roberts.

StarTrekAngel

Yes, it definitely speaks of two people who care not about looks. I am also sure the situation feeds insecurity, for small that it may be. Either way, the point here is that we all know that most likely this JW couples are less likely to be with each other because of real feelings and more likely because of the influence of the org on where to look for partners. Not denying that true love does happen in this way. We are just talking probabilities.

In my opinion, we evolved to look for beauty in every aspect. Is a survival mechanism. It is well know that, for example, certain silent diseases (like liver and other intestinal and hormonal issues) can reflect in the skin and the overall appearance of a person. In evolutionary terms, we would be programmed to look for the healthiest and strongest mate available thru their outside appearance. Once we poor love into the equation, then having a friendly relationship with someone we are not attracted to, can lead to further involvement, thus confirming that we can not love what we don't know. It is my opinion as well that we could potentially fall in love with anyone, if given enough time to get to know them. Is just that we do not give ourselves that chance, we just tend to follow beauty.