Posts by StarTrekAngel

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Witness behavior in my gym ....

by SecretSlaveClass in

about two months ago two very attractive ladies in their mid 30's signed on at one of the gyms i belong to.

for a while i noticed them watching me and naturally i assumed they were taking an interest in how i went about training my clients since many do before they decide to approach me and inquire about my services (i own a health and fitness consultancy).. sure enough one of them approached me a few weeks back and asked me for a business card, inquired about rates and various other aspects involved with signing on with me.

i handed her a card and explained that my client schedule was full but she should consider signing on with one of my personal trainers who still had some open spots available.

StarTrekAngel

It would not be the first time I hear of a JW woman seeking attention else where. I use to hear stories from a sister about her own sister in law. Just like is being mentioned in the RC, sometimes sexual repression is released somewhere else. It is unfortunate that sometimes it ends up being in the form of an adult abusing a child.

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the thing i find strange

by pepperheart in

the thing i find strange is that lots of jws seem as though they dont even want to hear godfrey jackson speak on friday can a member of the gb say somthing that is asposate lol

StarTrekAngel

He definitely can. Many could be stumbled if he gives in to the demands of the commission, just as much as many could be stumbled if he doesn't.

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Ron De Rooy is the worst

by StarTrekAngel in

sorry had to come and rant.. been watching all the videos from the rc.

i am at day 5 and so far mr de rooy has been the worst.

many of the others are pretty bad too but at least they show they are concerned for their own fate.

StarTrekAngel

I think the RC is doing a great job but they need not to forget that, every time they say that the victim has the right to go to the police, they actually are omitting the consequences.

Just like you have the right to leave the religion anytime (but not take your family), you have the right to go to the police (but not the right to avoid being dfed for it)

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Ron De Rooy is the worst

by StarTrekAngel in

sorry had to come and rant.. been watching all the videos from the rc.

i am at day 5 and so far mr de rooy has been the worst.

many of the others are pretty bad too but at least they show they are concerned for their own fate.

StarTrekAngel

"you anus"

That was hilarious!

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Ron De Rooy is the worst

by StarTrekAngel in

sorry had to come and rant.. been watching all the videos from the rc.

i am at day 5 and so far mr de rooy has been the worst.

many of the others are pretty bad too but at least they show they are concerned for their own fate.

StarTrekAngel

Sorry had to come and rant.

Been watching all the videos from the RC. I am at Day 5 and so far Mr De Rooy has been the worst. Many of the others are pretty bad too but at least they show they are concerned for their own fate. This guy's grim and the way he almost chuckles at every question is just horrible.

Rant finished.

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Are you disturbed by hypocrisy and hurtful teachings in religion? Then, boy, do I have the magazine for you!

by cappytan in

are you disturbed by hypocrisy and hurtful teachings in religion?

then, boy, do i have the magazine for you!.

.

StarTrekAngel

Damned! Need an excuse to miss that meeting! My cursing will probably come out of my earhole

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Geoffrey Jackson Royal Commission update

by umbertoecho in

hello people.

the rc will still go ahead with it's live stream on friday 14th august.

however, it seem that it will be a video link.

StarTrekAngel

Yep... totally trying to avoid having his faced plastered all over the media. We definitely need to write to the RC and tell them about this.

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Its really weird

by SpunkedTeen in

jw
friends

i tried testing my family by mentioning that a member of the gb was summoned to appear in front of the royal commission and i found it really weird how they reacted.they dismissed it saying its just satan attacking the 'truth' and i could not believe how ignorant they are.they all think that the organization did nothing wrong or even that jw's abuse their children.

StarTrekAngel

Don't hold it against them. They are being controlled and conditioned.

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Angel of the True God

by StarTrekAngel in

i usually open posts such as this one with disclaimer for the atheists/agnostics out there.

i respect your position and what i tried to do in posts like this one is discuss the bible, wether you believe the stories or not.. i believe it is well known that in jw doctrine it is thought that no one has ever seen god.

this teaching is also supplemented by the accounts of moises, where jehovah told him that no one can see him and yet live to tell the tale.. i, however, was always puzzled by some of the grammar in the bible where it seems to imply that god appeared to people.

StarTrekAngel

LOL Exactly my point Island Man. This is why I warn atheist when I open thread like these. The discussion can get pretty crazy.

Never the less, the point of the discussion is not wether the stories of the bible are true or not but rather how would you catch a JW on their own teachings. Comparing not the contradictions of the bible with itself, but the contradictions of the bible against their own doctrine.

Thanks all for your thoughts

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Angel of the True God

by StarTrekAngel in

i usually open posts such as this one with disclaimer for the atheists/agnostics out there.

i respect your position and what i tried to do in posts like this one is discuss the bible, wether you believe the stories or not.. i believe it is well known that in jw doctrine it is thought that no one has ever seen god.

this teaching is also supplemented by the accounts of moises, where jehovah told him that no one can see him and yet live to tell the tale.. i, however, was always puzzled by some of the grammar in the bible where it seems to imply that god appeared to people.

StarTrekAngel

I usually open posts such as this one with disclaimer for the atheists/agnostics out there. I respect your position and what I tried to do in posts like this one is discuss the bible, wether you believe the stories or not.

I believe it is well known that in JW doctrine it is thought that no one has ever seen God. This teaching is also supplemented by the accounts of Moises, where Jehovah told him that no one can see him and yet live to tell the tale.

I, however, was always puzzled by some of the grammar in the bible where it seems to imply that God appeared to people. Most notable are the account of Genesis (Abraham) where God seems to appear to Abraham in more than one occasion. I also noticed that the term "Angel of Jehovah" or "Angel of the True God" is somewhat used interchangeably in the bible. Upon looking it up, it seems that there is a consensus that the word "Angel" is usually interpreted as messenger. Is worth noticing that some reads imply that the word "Angel" could be applied to a human messenger but also to a supernatural one. Some sources even affirm that the term "Angel of Yahwe" can also applied to God himself. Off course, the WT would probably dismiss any references to such idea as they insist God has never come down to earth and has never been seen by anyone.

I recently stumbled upon the accounts of Judges chapter 6. By the way, this is a great chapter to use in showing a JW that faith is not blind and that demanding a sign is not frowned upon by God. Back in the subject matter, Judges 6:20, in summary, accounts on how Jehovah (or the Angel of, as both terms are used in the narrative) performs a sign to show Gideon that he was the true God. Upon realizing it was for real, Gideon exclaims (towards the end of par 22) "Alas, Sovereign Lord Jehovah, for the reason that I have seen Jehovah's angel face to face"23 But Jehovah said to him:" Peace by yours. Do not fear, You will not die"

I can't help to conciliate all of the above. In one hand, the writer (supposedly inspired) seems to alternatively refer to the being as "Jehovah" or "the angel of Jehovah" which leads to understand that God himself was down on earth talking to Gideon. Such would make sense, if we keep in mind the words of Moises, as having realized that God had come down, Gideon was scared of the fact that he saw him. But why then, did he not die and was told affirmatively so? Could it be that one can not see the spiritual manifestation of God and live but that God would take the form of an angel in order to present himself to humans?I mean, sort of like if an angel was more of a vessel for spiritual beings to come down to the material world and God has a ride of his own?

I think I recall another paragraph of the bible of a similar situation on which a prophet got scared upon realizing he was face to face with God. I just can't recall where it was.

Anyone ever done any research on the matter?