4thgen

Joined

• started 53 topics
• posted 577 times   see topics posted on
• send a message

Posts by 4thgen

• 
  19

  FLIPPER WE MISS YOU!

  by clarity in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  anybody hear from flipper.....haven't seen him on here lately!.

  it is just not the same without him & i really miss his presence.. where is our friend ....anyone?.

  clarity.

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  4thgen

  Glad to know you are ok. Hope things get more manageable soon!
• 
  55

  Israel National News reports a most amazing story about JWs

  by AndersonsInfo in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  http://www.israelnationalnews.com/news/flash.aspx/288677#.ux9165ao7l9.

  court rejects missionary lawsuit against netanya schools for voiding leasethe tel aviv magistrates court has rejected a claim by a missionary group, saying that the school they had been renting space in unlawfully voided their contract , and asking the court to instruct the school to pay nis 108,000 in compensation and mental anguish, as well as legal expenses.. it began when a missionary group, via a non-profit organization called "mitzpe l'yisrael", rented space at the raziel school in netanya to conduct daily afternoon activities.

  shortly after signing the rental agreement , the school authorities discovered that the group was, in reality, the notorious missionary sect of "jehovah's witnesses".

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  4thgen

  Spin. So they break the law and THEY want damages? Lawyers and money. Blame the victim. Nothing new.
• 
  30

  You will need to see this JW holding a stupid sign.

  by Iamallcool in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  .

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  4thgen

  I wonder how much time you can count with a jw.org bumper sticker on your car. Or wearing jw.org clothing.
• 
  72

  CO's & DO's age 70+ to be laid off on 9/1/14

  by williamhconley in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  in a private conversation with a c.o.

  friend from north carolina, he told me yesterday that they just got a letter that all traveling overseers (do's & co's) age 70 & up are going to be laid off on 09/01/2014.

  they will be asssigned to local congregations and further details are pending.. .

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  4thgen

  yes the health insurance is probably a concern. But financially they are pretty well off. At the end of each visit they always got their pockets lined with cash gifts- tips? NON TAXED. Lets say $300 a week x30 yrs. 6.5% = over 1M ! Nice little nest egg.
• 
  41

  New Policy on Inactive Ones?

  by Cynisister in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  this may have been discussed, but i just recently was told that a km this past year stated that inactive ones are now to be treated as if they are df'd.

  is this so?

  cynisister.

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  4thgen

  I understood that if an inactive sheep does not 'bleet' (call for help in sheep language) they will not engage.
• 
  3

  My 5 year old said to me. Mommy calls you the grumpy ol’e troll that lives under a bridge.

  by WhoYourDaddy in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  we were watching dora the explorer together and my daughter still likes dora as she just turned 5.

  (her birthday is on valentines day but that's another story.).

  i laughed and said.

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  4thgen

  "Oh yeah? What ELSE does Mommy say?"
• 
  36

  How Were YOU Treated In Your Hall?

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  were you a fish out of water?.

  were you popular in your congregation?.

  were you a "marked" person?.

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  4thgen

  I've seen life on both sides. As being the in family of an elder, I think some were intimidated by us at times. We had a nice house and some disposable income. Yet we were very hospitable to everyone not just the so-called: elite. We had book study in our home for years and always invited those to stay after for coffee, etc.

  Things changed when I took a stand against my husband’s abuse. He was dealt with (somewhat) judicially, but when I divorced him because of his continued behavior and withholding means of support, I was viewed as Jezebel with a bad case of leprosy. Very often when I walked in the hall I felt I should have a stick in front of me beating the ground while yelling "Unclean! Unclean!" That's how much people scattered from me.

  The elders told me that some of the brothers were afraid that I was going to rally the wives in some sort of revolt. If I kept quiet I would not be 'dealt with'. Well, I did keep quiet and yet I was marked privately anyway. Some turned with a vengeance and those who were afraid of a massive uprising warned their wives against associating with me. It was a terrible time. There were a few brave, loyal friends that stuck by me in private, but few acknowledged me publically or invited me anywhere.

  Although this has been tough, I would not make a different decision. I only would have divorced the bum sooner. (Maybe I should have rallied the sisters! What fun that would have been!)
• 
  3

  Identifying a cult - what is it's purpose?

  by 4thgen in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  there was an interesting statement on a cult recovery site: the first is to look at its purpose which should be centered on the people it serves rather than on the ones that are providing the service.. well, that leaves out jws, as its now all about the gb.. 'its not what they say, its what they do!".

  .

  http://www.choosehelp.com/experts/counseling/counseling-christopher-smith/religious-recovery-site-or-a-cult.

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  4thgen

  There was an interesting statement on a cult recovery site: “The first is to look at its purpose which should be centered on the people it serves rather than on the ones that are providing the service.’

  Well, that leaves out JW’s, as it’s now all about the GB.

  'It’s not what they say, it’s what they do!"

  http://www.choosehelp.com/experts/counseling/counseling-christopher-smith/religious-recovery-site-or-a-cult
• 
  7

  JW encounters.... How about you?

  by dazed but not confused in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  looking back, were there witnesses that you secretly hoped would never learn ttatt, never wake up?.

  i had two polar opposite encounters this weekend.

  the first was a sweet sister that saw me and my wife at the grocery store and gave us both big hugs and asked how we were doing.

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  4thgen

  The only person I would wish never finds out ttatt is my mother. She is very old and I believe if she found out she would die of a broken beart.
• 
  2

  Official reason vs real reason

  by Rattigan350 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  there has been many changes in the past decade, but there is a difference between the stated reason and what we perceive as the real reason.. those who have access to the letters can fill in some of the stated reasons or benefits.

  it is like they are afraid of telling the truth.

  stating that they are making business decisions for monetary reasons.

  1. 
  2. 
• 

  4thgen

  2010: WTS begins closing/merging Branch facilities and selling branch properties

  No reason stated but possibly to get cash and cut expenses.

  • []POSSIBLY TO GET CASH FOR THE ABUSE LAWSUITS

  2011: Drop to 30 hours in required auxiliary hours

  Stated reason: more can have meeting with CO

  Reason: To get more 10,20,30 hour publishers to give more time and think they are doing something great

  • []When a product is not selling, businesses mark it down. It generates excitment for the product and gets a wider distribution.