Posts by 4thgen

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Let's Be Honest - You or One of Your Ancestors Was an Idiot

by Simon in

why were we ever a jw?

were we mad?

we must have been .... well, my excuse is that i knew nothing else.

4thgen

idiot

/ˈɪdɪət/

noun

1. a person with severe mental retardation

2. a foolish or senseless person

Idiot? No. My Great-great grandmother left the Catholic religion because of the stance they took on warfare. She knew from the Bible that killing was wrong and stood up for what she knew to be right. It was challenging to stand up against the Catholics back in the early 40’s. I have to say that I admire her choice and applaud her courage. It certainly was a different world back then.

Only through the passage of time, have we seen that the predictions are false. Today we have the internet and with a little bit of effort can pull back the curtain and see the reality of the organization. Idiots? No. Ignorant of the facts? Yes.

As for myself, yes I think I was an idiot. It took me a few years to finally accept TTATT.

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How We Felt When We Discovered TTATT!

by The Searcher in

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4thgen

I got a migraine and became sick to my stomach and vomited. I was a classic example of cognitive dissonance in action. It took me many months to accept the facts.

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Selloff Hinted At Assembly

by thedepressedsoul in

the last talk at the assembly made an interesting statement, "we can show faith by following direction if we're asked to move to another kingdom hall for better use of dedicated christian funds".

this statement has everyone talking.

i spoke to multiple individuals and they heard the same thing at different assembly's.. i know they have been "evaluating" all kingdom halls the last year or two.

4thgen

joey jojo: What a cryin' shame about your grandmother. To take money from a senior and do what they did is reproachable. Maybe some good would come of it...maybe she will start mulling it over and eventually learn TTATT. We can only hope. Hugs, 4thgen

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Using the term "Watchtower" when talking to a JW

by Sanchy in

jw
friends

has anyone else noticed how alarm bells go off inside a jw mind as soon as they hear someone that "is out" refer to the leaders of this org as "watchtower"?

i've chatted with a few friends now about my doubts and each and every time i've started using phrases such as "watchtower said this" or "watchtower did that", i can almost see their heads about to explode in anger, as if they've just realized they are talking to the lucifer himself.

some have even interrupted and corrected me by reminding me that it's not "watchtower", it's "god's organization".

4thgen

Maybe the term "Watchtower" brings up the old ways...Of course now they are JW.org...Worshiping a website instead of a magazine seems more palatable. Got to keep up with the times!

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$40,000.00 USD, and counting.....

by DATA-DOG in

i'm not sure if anyone is keeping track, but as of today, the wtbts has spent $40,000.00 usd to avoid releasing sensitive documents to the superior authorities.

that's $40,000.00 usd of "dedicated funds.

are you a born-in jw?

4thgen

Is the clock still ticking?

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Convention Videos: Someone messed up royally

by ILoveTTATT2 in

jw
friends

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when i first saw the video, i was like, "wait... is that her... panties showing through the dress"?and it seems like it is so.turns out that if you look at the middle right of the video, there are some letters.

it reads, "footage provided by pond5".if someone wants to purchase that video to confirm, you can purchase it here:http://depositphotos.com/63621499/stock-video-violinist-girl-walking-through-a.htmli think that this was a royal mess up because i doubt they would put footage of a sister in a skimpy, revealing dress.doesn't the gb approve this?this will probably go down as another of the "subliminal images"...if there are thongs in paradise... might not be so bad after all!.

4thgen

This guy looks like he’s a Hare Krishna or some other cult guru

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What Songs Best Fit you when you learned TATT and Afterwards?

by Wasanelder Once in

the work of john lennon best fit my situation.

first, i found out.

i found out.

4thgen

>>>>Finally having the Strength to Walk Away from the elders and GB<<<<<<<

JoDee Messina - Song: Bye Bye

Bye bye love I'll catch you later
Got a left foot down on my accelerator and the rear view mirror torn off
I ain't never lookin' back and that's a fact
I've tried all I can imagine
I've begged and pleaded in true lover's fashion
I've got pride I'm takin' it for a ride
Bye bye, bye bye my baby, bye bye

Don't think all those tears are gonna hold me here like they've done before
You'll find what's left of us in a cloud of dust on highway 4
Baby what did you expect me to do
Just sit around and wait on you
Well I'm through watchin' you just skate around the truth
And I know it sounds trite
I've seen the light

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iVoKkdVNSvo&feature=youtu.be

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What Songs Best Fit you when you learned TATT and Afterwards?

by Wasanelder Once in

the work of john lennon best fit my situation.

first, i found out.

i found out.

4thgen

Independence Day, Martina McBride

Well she seemed all right by dawn's early light
Though she looked a little worried and weak.
She tried to pretend he wasn't drinkin' again
But daddy'd left the proof on her cheek.
Well ,word gets around in a small,small town
They said he was a dangerous man
But mama was proud and she stood her ground
But she knew she was on the losin' end.
Some folks whispered and some folks talked
But everybody looked the other way
And when time ran out there was no one about
On Independence Day.
Let freedom ring, let the white dove sing
Let the whole world know that today
Is a day of reckoning.
Let the weak be strong, let the right be wrong
Roll the stone away, let the guilty pay
It's Independence Day.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4VPpAZ9_qAw&feature=youtu.be

This Time, Celine Dion

https://youtu.be/Jcu6lrYGcIQ

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I need quotes from watctower demonizing the internet, and gadgets e.g smart phones, tablets etc

by joe134cd in

i need wt quotes where wt goes fully out and: .

demonizes the internet, .

witnesses preaching on the internet.

4thgen

This change in attitude toward the internet was one of the things that began to open my eyes to the fact that the GB doesn't have a clue....So, I guess Jehovah must have changed his mind about using the internet, huh? Or was it that the GB did not find any good in it until they could capitalize on it? It's interesting how through the years they did a 180 on using the internet... from it being all evil to changing the identity from Jehovah's Witnesses to JW.org.

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How you noticed? Utube + Jw.org

by 4thgen in

when i am working around the house, i often google: utube + jehovah's witnesses or utube + jw.org.

it's good to catch up on the latest videos of those exposing the watchtower.

today, though when i searched, up popped all sorts of videos from the borg itself.

4thgen

When I am working around the house, I often google: Utube + Jehovah's Witnesses or Utube + jw.org. It's good to catch up on the latest videos of those exposing the Watchtower. Today, though when I searched, up popped all sorts of videos from the Borg itself. Many were not in English. Many were posts of clips from JW.org. Has this subject been discussed? It's been a while since I've been on this site.

I maybe wrong, but it appears that there has been instruction from the WT to different countries to post videos from JW.org. It is pretty smart, actually....because it will put the apostate videos lower on the search. It's good for them in their 'theocratic warfare' but bad for us seeking the real truth about the truth. What do you think?

Hugs, 4thgen