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  Who Was Shocked By the Watchtower UN NGO Scandal?

  by AlanF in

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  i'd like to get comments from people about whether and how much they were shocked, surprised, or otherwise bothered by the watchtower society's becoming an associated non-governmental organization (ngo).. note that i'd like to see these comments because they might lead to some interesting publicity, so please comment accordingly.. alanf

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  joe134cd: I feel your pain.

  Put simply: At first I was confused; then hurt; then outraged! That new fact changed my entire life.

  When I found out about NGO, I was in the middle of my own **2nd** family/WT child abuse scandal. I was so confused what was happening with the WT and the elders. It felt like I was in a fun house. What was black was white and what was white was black. I didn’t realize it at the time, but I was in the midst of cognitive dissonance. I knew there had to be an answer to the craziness of the situation None of it made sense, so I searched for answers determinded to find the truth.

  During my research, I stumbled on the information about NGO. It was so upsetting, as we had preached for years about the coming destruction of the U.N.! Then I remembered wondering about a picture in the Revelation book with the world leaders and seeing on the side of the picture in small letters something about 'courtesy of the U.N.' and thinking how odd that was. Well, that began another researching tangent. I tried to prove to myself that it was all untrue. But I couldn‘t. The evidence was there. It was true. Learning about NGO was the turning point for me in accepting the TTATT and the answers to the abuse quandary.

  It was at that point that I stepped out of the fun house; When I looked around, I saw that white was still white and black is still black. It changed my life. I can’t say I’m especially overjoyed that I found TTATT, as it affected my entire life as a 4th generation JW....BUT I am satisfied that I have made the right choices and am settled in my mind and heart. It's dealing with those who are uninformed that is a challenge.
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  The real reason behind the Revised New World Tranlation

  by raymond frantz in

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  2. beliefs

  usually i'm spending most of the meeting reading through the bible .so my time spend there is not entirely lost .i used to enjoy how in the old nwt you could look up a verse and then following the side references i could get a pretty good picture on that verse.usually the explanation would be contrary to the official jw doctrine.last sunday meeting i opened the revised nwt to do exactly the same thing ,and then it hit me !

  the revised nwt has removed more that half of the references used in the previous version.what more the references they left only lead you to verses that support jw doctrine.this a watered down version of the previous edition.what do you think ?could it be that this is part of their continous plan to dumb down all remaining jws?.

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  Ray: Good way of putting it....

  Data Dog- Love the 'RNWT for Dummies'....that is great! They seem to have a whole series going on, including the 'simplified' WT
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  1/21/14 Chicago archdiocese hid decades of child sex abuse

  by 4thgen in

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  2. child-abuse

  here is the latest about the chicago archdiocese documents....i can't help but wondering if the wt will send out a letter to all congregations to destroy all documents for child abuse cases.

  watchtower-gate?.

  http://news.msn.com/crime-justice/chicago-archdiocese-hid-decades-of-child-sex-abuse.

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  Here is the latest about the Chicago archdiocese documents....I can't help but wondering if the WT will send out a letter to all congregations to destroy all documents for child abuse cases. Watchtower-gate?

  http://news.msn.com/crime-justice/chicago-archdiocese-hid-decades-of-child-sex-abuse
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  2013 WT CD Library?

  by blondie in

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  will the wts be issuing one (or has issued onne already?

  ) or will the www.jw.org online library be the future?.

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  Wasblind:

  Yes, I remember a few years ago, my COBE who was 80+ was downsizing and moving. He felt very 'up to date' when hey chose to get rid of their old bound volumes and rely only on the CD. He told me that many of his friends were doing the same thing. At the time, I felt a little sad, because I love books, but I couldn't blame him. Who would have known where all this was to lead? Maybe that was the WT's plans all along...encourage streaminglineing to get some to dump the printed page.
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  Would the Jehovah's Witnesses be willing to celebrate their spiritual birthday every year?

  by I_love_Jeff in

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  2. beliefs

  one of their spiritual sisters said that since jesus attended weddings, that makes it okay to celebrate annual wedding anniversaries.

  using this logic, since jesus approved of and attended his own baptism, that should, therefore, make it okay for jehovah's witnesses to celebrate their spiritual birthdays on that same day every year.

  how exciting to have this new adjustment to our understanding of birthdays!

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  Ding, Now THAT"S something to celebrate!
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  Would the Jehovah's Witnesses be willing to celebrate their spiritual birthday every year?

  by I_love_Jeff in

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  2. beliefs

  one of their spiritual sisters said that since jesus attended weddings, that makes it okay to celebrate annual wedding anniversaries.

  using this logic, since jesus approved of and attended his own baptism, that should, therefore, make it okay for jehovah's witnesses to celebrate their spiritual birthdays on that same day every year.

  how exciting to have this new adjustment to our understanding of birthdays!

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  Nah, too much self glorifcation, I expect. Anything that would detract, (even for a day), from the popularity GB would not be welcome.
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  exJW Psychology 105--"Are You Ready for The Big A?"

  by Billy the Ex-Bethelite in

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  i don't know how many others have gotten this question that i got recently.

  i wonder if it was the co that thought this would be a great question to try to reactivate someone like me:.

  at the time, i was kinda blindsided by the question and gave just an okay response.

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  Good work, Billy!

  Yes, I also was a willing victom to the "Responsible Chilbearing in the Time of the End" talk at the District Convention and article, too. What a dope, I was! I swallowed it hook-line-and-sinker! And to think, I wore my childlessness as a badge of honor of my devotion to God! STUPID....

  (Sarcasm): How could they possibly have removed such a timely article? And to think the young people of today cannot read such sage advise:

  *** w88 3/1 p. 27 Responsible Childbearing in This Time of the End ***

  Children During the "Great Tribulation"

  20 Ahead of us is the "great tribulation such as has not occurred since the world’s beginning until now, no, nor will occur again." (Matthew 24:21) It will be a difficult time for adults and children alike. In his prophecy on the conclusion of the present system of things, Jesus foretold that Christian truth would divide families. He stated: "Furthermore, brother will deliver brother over to death, and a father a child, and children will rise up against parents and have them put to death." (Mark 13:12) Obviously, rearing children in the time of the end would not always be a pure joy. It could bring heartbreak, disappointment, and even danger, as Jesus’ words quoted above show.
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  MSN report on false end of the world predictions includes JW's

  by joyfulfader in

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  2. bible

  i thought this quote on msn regarding all the interest in end of the world stuff because of today's date 12/12/12 and the 21st as the end of the mayan calendar.. "figuring out when it all comes crashing down isn't easy, though.

  the jehovah's witnesses, for example, have predicted the end of the world at least four times, only to be forced to backtrack.

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  How many other of these predictions were mentioned in the Watchtower and Awake, proving how wrong the other religions were?
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  Topics not often discussed now

  by jdubsnub in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  when i was a kid in the early 90's there always seemed to be a mention of how demons posessing people or how if you saw a demon or something supernatural occuring mearly calling jehovah's name would rid you of the situation.

  rarely now a days do you hear anything of the sort.

  that got me to thinking, what are some other topics the society has backed off of?

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  Smurfs come off the wallpaper and will fly around the room and taunt your children

  Blood in McDonalds French fries

  Used items being posessed and demons entering your home

  Androgynous dress and hair styles

  Turning off your pager during the meeting

  Colored panti-hose for women

  Free parking

  White shirts only for men on the platform

  Make sure you renew your Watchtower and Awake! subscription

  Wide ties are too trendy for the platform

  Let's make our back-calls

  Hour talk

  To be considerate of those who open their homes for the book-study

  The dance called 'the twist' will lead you into immoral behavor

  To remember that the High School Gym is now a place of sacred worship

  Culottes are not fitting for meetings or service

  Do not get in line during the song for your hoggies and McMuffin Eggs

  Disco is evil

  And my personal favorite: The internet is **BAD**
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  Jehovah's Witness couple and their young children found shot dead in two-story home after grim 'murder suicide'

  by kneehighmiah in

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  2. friends

  murder suicide tragedy by jw couple.

  very terrible.. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2540809/jehovahs-witness-couple-young-children-shot-dead-two-story-home-grandmother-grim-murder-suicide.html.

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  It is very tragic on all levels. Especially for the children. So very sad.

  It was written that he partook last year. I wonder if the idea that he was demoted and not part of the Faithful and Discrete Slave Class came into play. I suppose we will never know.