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  Why are JW REQUIRED to report Field Service Time???

  by JT in

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  2. friends

  if you ever wanted to know why this poster put it best

  repost-------------------------------------.

  in reply to: why do jw keep track of hrs?

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  4thgen

  nonjwspouse you have a pm
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  100 things I learned from watching "The Prodigal Son" DVD

  by Perversion of a truth in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  these are things that were said or insinuated, i start with the first 15.

  enjoy!!.

  1. working for a corporation in the city makes you fall out of the truth.. 2. if you become inactive or leave jehovah you will make your whole family sad and ruin everything.. 3. all worldly people cheat.. 4. all worldly people curse.. 5.

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  So let me get this straight...it's an evil thing for a young man to get paid for working at an internet advertising agency; but it's Godly goal to work unpaid for an internet advertising agency that's named jw.org?
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  BOE Letter: New Adjustments

  by pixel in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  **this was predicted from some members here**.

  to all congregations .

  re: adjustments in organizational terminology and assembly arrangements .

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  Yes keep them talking about the minusha of names and maybe they will forget its 100 years past the marked year of 1914.
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  The purpose of changing JW names, titles and terms

  by gingerbread in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  during a discussion over the weekend, we exchanged ideas about recent changes in terminology related to assembly days, conventions and new titles for the higher-ups.

  i commented that for years in 'security' at larger meetings we were told to talk to any that seemed out of place and ask questions that would indicate if they were apostates - antiquated terms like 'overseer' or a reference the 'truth' book.. another in our group brought up the character in the orwell book 1984 and how his job was to separate new and approved terms from old words.

  this was called doublethink and blackwhite.

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  Could all these changes be part of the religion trying to reinvent themselves and distance themselves from failed promises? A vain attempt to put lipstick on a sow. Gb.1 may have actually believed what they preached. Gb.2 is all about power, damage control and getting $$$$ into the corporation.
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  JW.Org

  by Kool Jo in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i've been pondering......with this new "push" to direct individuals to thw jw.org website, even when the dubs are out preaching...what do you think the future will be for the preaching work?.

  some time ago i read that the mormons have implemented a live chat feature that allows you to speak with their missionaries....i doubt the borg would do this, but i think they have something up their sleeves.. peace.

  kool jo.

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  Adude that was my thought about the annual meeting it encouraged all to go online to push web count numbers up. After some spiritual surfing has done damage they will probably design a special web filter for all jws as a blocking against harmful/ apostate sites....probably have spy ware too with local elders monotoring websites publishers view. its all about control and power
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  Is the Watchtower Really Rewriting their History through the DVDs and CD-ROM?s Historical Revisionist.

  by RottenRiley in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i am searching for the materials showing the watchtower changing the original content like or examples of the following.. .

  "the preaching work will be finished in the 20th century and never be repeated".

  i heard they changed this gem, and many others, why are they so dishonest, their members are stuck in the mental mud, doubt they even read the new magazines so why are they going to the trouble of changing or revising their past magazines when the members wanting true christian freedom, practicing love and compassion will locate the revised materials?.

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  They have been amending the facts for decades and watering down much of what was said/written in the past. With jw.org, I'm sure they will only get more brazen as they can click, cut and save. History re-written.
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  Child Abuse or Apostasy...which is worse?

  by kneehighmiah in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  i believe that apostasy is the ultimate jw sin.

  only apostates are mentally diseased.

  it's hilarious how a child predator or psychopath has never been called mentally diseased.

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  Yes, I agree that child abuse is much, much worse....However, through my experience I have found that childless couples, with the elder/husband as a 'company man' are far less empathetic to child abuse. Many I know are hardened to the sin of abuse, but would readily condemn an apostate without any qualms of conscience. Is that screwed up or what?
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  New congregation accounting system

  by thedog1 in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i'm sure i read a thread here about the new congregation accounting procedures.

  i ask because i handle the accounts in our cong and in our part of the world the new accounting system has just arrived whereby local congs do not have their own account any longer, but all funds outside of basic monthly costs is forwarded to an account controlled by the org.

  this is causing huge confusion in our cong as we have to work out how much we need to keep back for monthly costs and the new idea is that you send all your extra cash to the org and if you need it back you can ask for it but we don't know how easy or hard it would be to do that.

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  Why all the excitement? We know the corporate desires come before the needs of the flock. Just more proof.
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  Argument with my Child "Why did I stay in the Organization so long?" Anger and Bitter Feelings.

  by RottenRiley in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  last night my third oldest child wanted to know why we stayed in the organization so long.

  child is a third year college student enjoying all the classes this "wicked system" has to offer, the insatiable appetite for learning makes him want to argue and debate, i don't have the energy to debate because i don't feel good with all life has thrown our way.. .

  "the only reason i went to meetings so long was because grandma and grandpa needed somebody to take them to meetings and cobe aunt and uncle and secretary aunt and uncle refused to talk to grandma for years, otherwise i would have stopped attending the kingdom hall because the kids were assholes and i was always the one who had to make "first contact", "i was the one who had to go around and meet and greet newbies while the regular jw wall-flowers (calebs) ignored all the visitors and new persons visiting our kingdom hall.

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  Do you feel dissappointed? Duped? Betrayed ? Maybe angry? Get on tbe same wavelength. You are not the enemy....getting a common ground may work
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  Has the Governing Body Become More or Less Authoritarian in Recent Years?

  by cofty in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  it seems to me that this is a no-brainer but i have been out since '96.. so based on your personal experiences what do you think?.

  lots more - a bit more - just the same as always - less - a lot less?.

  if you think more or lots more can you spot a time or event when it started to change?.

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  They have been getting tighter and tighter as their curtian is pulled back further, bringing all their hidden issues to light.