Posts by 4thgen

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Mentally Diseased - is it partly our fault that we got this label?

by cappytan in

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i was thinking about this the other day.. a common way for apostates to "fade" is to pretend to have depression or anxiety problems.. is it possible, that when apostates become known, the elders report to the society that said person was undergoing mental health problems?

i can see a scenario where the society then took those statistics that were reported and just decided, "well, it looks like the only ones leaving are those with mental diseases.".

oh, and not to mention the subliminal messages conspiracy theorists.

4thgen

THEY have always correlated 'spiritual weakness' with being 'mentally unbalanced'.

It used to be that the WT never admitted that someone who was active could ever be clinically depressed. (they were not putting Jehovah first or they wouldn't be depressed or so they indicated) and if you just had enough faith you would not need medication or assistance from mental health professionals. It was a big deal when they actually admitted that the elders were not qualified to handle all cases.

They will never admit that THEY are the ones unbalanced and in need of mental health assistance (my preference is a lobotomy for them) for all the spiritual abuses they heaped upon the willing sheep.

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Why a new "World Headquarters"?

by 4thgen in

i just dont get it.

the gb moved to patterson and are conducting business from there, right?

they are not printing as much literature as they once were and they are still operating walkill for the magazines...er a ....pamphlets.

4thgen

Very Interesting!

Thanks for the interesting thoughts!

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The Religion Of Rejection - And Now That Includes Me

by dubstepped in

due to some recent developments i find myself in a new place, and at this point i've lost all of my family and fri....oh that's right, i never really had any friends in the organization anyway.

just people that wanted something from me and a few people that i would invite to do things that occasionally said yes.

the recent rejections of me got me thinking, so let's take a rejection inventory.. i had to reject all of the holidays when my parents started studying.. i had to reject any worldly friends that i already had.. even family became rejected, and the new religion had some place in that.. i was rejected in school and bullied all of the time, not just because we were poor and i made good grades, but for jw reasons too.

4thgen

dubstepped - Thank you for putting your feelings down in writing. I do not believe I have ever heard it put that way before. Upon reflection, yes ours was a religion of rejection. We were always taught that to be approved, we must be hated. Sick, isn't it? It takes a long while to rebuild, especially with all the deprograming that we have to go through. Two very positive things are your wife and your brother. That is a solid foundation on which to begin your new life. Expect ups and downs. You have made a wise decision. Cherish each day of your new found acceptance of a life of freedom. Best to you!

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I need help with this one. What do you think I should do?

by Quarterback in

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my wife is pleasant and easy to get along with.

she is also helpful to many.

lately, however, there is a jw sister who some are curious about has befreinded my wife.

4thgen

On the way out: "cock block"? You made me laugh.

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Why a new "World Headquarters"?

by 4thgen in

i just dont get it.

the gb moved to patterson and are conducting business from there, right?

they are not printing as much literature as they once were and they are still operating walkill for the magazines...er a ....pamphlets.

4thgen

I just don’t get it. The GB moved to Patterson and are conducting business from there, right? They are not printing as much literature as they once were and they are still operating Walkill for the magazines…er a ….pamphlets. Clearly the publisher numbers are decreasing despite their inflated reports and the failure of the trolley witnessing. What justification can they possibly give for building the new “World Headquarters” in Warwick? I am sure they are saying that it is God’s will they expand as a spin for what is really happening, but what is its actual purpose? Are they planning to move up the printing presses for printing books? That seems so ridiculous with everything going digital. Yet, if it was to be a retirement haven, surely they would continue to expand in warmer climates. What is the reason they are giving? And what is the REAL purpose of the compound in Warwick?

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A Tug on the Leash (The Authority Which the GB Wields Over the R&F)

by Oubliette in

recently, several comments have been made in various threads in reference to some of the recent changes to a few of the rules by which jehovah's witnesses must live their lives in unquestioning compliance.

the assertion has been made that these rules are a "relaxing" of previous restrictions.

the suggestion has been made that this somehow indicates a corresponding relaxing or loosening or lessening of the authority which the governing body (gb) holds over the rank and file (r&f) members of the religion.

4thgen

Fortunately for us, we're like cats at the end of the leash

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Out of the Mouth of Babes - Bethel Gift shop?

by 4thgen in

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about a week ago i posted to ask for some suggestions on how handle my (pre-teen) sons upcoming trip with his father trip to bethel this summer.

i got some wonderful suggestions.

some of which was to leave him alone, as he will see through the bullshxt himself.

4thgen

Thanks for all your comments. The WT has always been very proprietary about the use of the WT trademark. It is highly likely that they get some sort of reimbursement for the use on the logo for those products.

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