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  Does a brother have to be appointed an MS to be an account servant?

  by 4thgen in

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  2. beliefs

  as many of you know, my ex-husband was removed as an elder for child abuse.

  i was told at the time he would never be reappointed in any capacity.

  yet i heard today he was appointed as an account servant.

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  4thgen

  Hello! As many of you know, my ex-husband was removed as an elder for child abuse. I was told at the time he would never be reappointed in any capacity. Yet I heard today he was appointed as an account servant. Does he have to be an MS or is it based on local needs? There are so many changes lately, it's tough to keep up. BTW I have no illusions that I was lied to....and eventually he will be reappointed. All the Best, 4thgen
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  Forgiving Loans the Watchtower Way

  by cofty in

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  bank - thank you for maintaining your loan repayments for the past 3 years.

  to show our appreciation we are forgiving the balance of your loan.

  borrower - yeah!.

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  4thgen

  Thanks Cofty....
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  Just found out their about to baptise my 14 year old boy.

  by Crazyguy in

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  2. child-abuse

  there doing this right under my nose but i just found out.

  not sure what to do but would like your help on getting me wt information on my headship role and how they shouldn't be doing this with out my permission.

  also would like some help on showing my son the ramifications on what happens to someone when they get baptized and how they'll expect him to treat me.

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  4thgen

  Please keep us posted. We're all with you here!
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  2015-Watchtower Audit Checklist!

  by Atlantis in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  2015, audit checklist.. .. click the green download button.. .. 2015 checklist for audit of file .

  http://wwwb.fileflyer.com/view/aliira5.

  .. .. wtunderground!.

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  4thgen

  Typical CYA move. Agreed....too many lawsuits....
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  Something interesting!

  by John Aquila in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i was invited to a small get-together by a long time friend.

  we both served as elders for years.

  he is in his late 70s.

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  4thgen

  Actually, they are apostates, they just don't like that label. An apostate is someone that turns away from watchtower teachings, which is what they have done, and in a fairly significant way. Like all of us, we realize that the way the Watchtower describes apostates is not a fair representation.

  It would be safe to say that they refer to themselves as Jehovah’s Witnesses and the new organization JW.org as the apostates.JW.org has been the ones to change, not them.

  As far as the comments on confidentiality and how it would not be possible to keep such a thing under wraps….in my day (did I just say that???) an elder or servant would keep all matters confidential. So these old timers, could continue to do the same. No different. They haven’t changed their stripes.

  I would bet there are many others across the nation who are of the same view, only in smaller groups. A few weeks ago, there was a poster that got lambasted on this site because he felt that he and his family and a few others were acting as a true Christian within the realm of JW.org, but didn’t agree with the changes.

  Just sayin
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  It's not the same religion anymore.

  by punkofnice in

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  2. beliefs

  that was a quote from a dyed in the wool jw recently.

  it was a complaint.. we all know that with 'new light(tm)' that the watchtower corporation's version of 'religion' has kept changing for a long time.

  since i remember.....and i go back a long way too.

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  4thgen

  It used to cause a stir if the brothers wore a YHWH label pin or it was put on licence plates. It was taking the name of the Lord too casually and they were counciled. Now they don't even proclaim it in that way, it's shortened to jw.org.
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  Elders are Complicit with WT Society in Child Abuse Scandals- Gonzalo Campos Case

  by flipper in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  of course, most of us realize this.

  however sometimes even on this board sometimes threads have stated that the jw elders have been occasionally painted as the " fall guys " who take the rap for the wt society leaders - which of course is true - to a degree.

  however- that being said , many times elders have failed to protect - or even have failed to advocate for child abuse victims when it has been within their power to do so.

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  Quote from recent Time magazine: "Those who covered this up are guilty" POPE FRANCIS, vowing at the close of his US trip at American bishops who concealed sexual abuse by clergy members would be held accountable."

  Who would have predicted that the pope would be more forthright than the GB?
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  Two Detectives Observing A J.W. Meeting.

  by smiddy in

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  2. entertainment

  woody harrelson and mathew mcconaughey { standing at the back of the k..h..during a meeting }.

  w.h.. "what do you know about these people " { who get their higher education reading and studying the watchtower and awake magazines} ?.

  "just observation and deduction , i see propensity for obesity , poverty, a yen for fairy tales , folks putting what few bucks they do have into contribution boxes .. i think it`s safe to say that nobody here is going to be splitting the atom.

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  4thgen

  Lol
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  My mom passed away yesterday....

  by minimus in

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  2. friends

  thank you all for your sincere encouragement during these last few weeks.

  finally, she is at peace.

  i was with her , holding her hand when she died.

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  4thgen

  So sorry. Hugs and condolences.
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  Similarities between the Governing Body and an abusive spouse

  by Zoos in

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  2. beliefs

  i was looking at a list of methods used by abusive spouses to manipulate and control their "domain" and was struck by how similar the mentality is to the governing body's approach to the flock.

  obviously not everything on the list applies as there is no sexual component in the congregation and there is no physical contact, but the similarities were shocking.. http://www.helpguide.org/articles/abuse/domestic-violence-and-abuse.htm.

  abusers use a variety of tactics to manipulate you and exert their power:.

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  4thgen

  Absolutely! And we were like the abuse victim....first accepting the blame for the abuse...returning for more...taking our lumps...knowing something is wrong, but thinking it was us....until one day the lightbulb goes off and we say: ENOUGH!!!!!!! Same pattern. I heard that a victim returns to an abusive situation around 7 or 8 times before they finally leave for good. It seems that the way the indoctrination is carried out that it looks for those timid, worn 'sheeplike' ones to bring in to dominate them. Thanks for starting this thread.