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  Does a brother have to be appointed an MS to be an account servant?

  by 4thgen in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  as many of you know, my ex-husband was removed as an elder for child abuse.

  i was told at the time he would never be reappointed in any capacity.

  yet i heard today he was appointed as an account servant.

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  4thgen

  Thanks All!

  tim3l0rd: So the loop hole my ex will use.... that it wasn't sexual abuse...only physical.
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  Does a brother have to be appointed an MS to be an account servant?

  by 4thgen in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  as many of you know, my ex-husband was removed as an elder for child abuse.

  i was told at the time he would never be reappointed in any capacity.

  yet i heard today he was appointed as an account servant.

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  Thanks Divergent...I'm in the US and it used to be that if there was a need they could use a brother without his being appointed. Now, I'm not so sure....

  Dunedian - Yes it was with my son. It was physical and emotional- not sexual. He beat him up so bad while he was an elder, he was arrested, removed and publically reproved. I will have to share the details of my story some day. It was an ugly mess that lasted over 5 years in the courts and many, many committee meetings. I was promised at the time 'no privileges- ever again', but I have learned the hard way never to trust the organization. It's only a matter of time.
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  Unbaptised son maybe asked to be in assembly ... Suggestions please!

  by 4thgen in

  1. social
  2. family

  my husband and i are divorced.

  i have custody of my tween son.

  i left 3 years ago on principle.

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  My husband and I are divorced. I have custody of my tween son. I left 3 years ago on principle. My ex, who was removed as an elder for child abuse.... has been studying with him (during phone conversations and on his weekends) and taking him in service on his visitation weekends. We have no contact with JW's other than when he is with his father. Yet, he is an unbaptized publisher. He likes dressing up and walking the neighborhoods). My ex is sucking up to be reappointed.

  During the visitation this weekend, the COBE has asked to speak to my son. My ex does not know why (?). Recently my ex-contacted the COBE at the local congregation and they are arranging for my son to be picked up to go to meetings, while he is living with me. They will need to approach me before he's picked up- and I will thank them for their concern, but basically tell them to butt out. Maybe the COBE wants to talk to my son about how he needs to stand up and tell me he wants to attend....He doesn't really- he HATES our hall here.

  OR....The Special Day is coming up and I have a sneaking feeling that he will be asked to be on the platform. Does anyone have any experience in these matters? I do not want him to be on the platform, with all it's 'glory' and adoration. I am trying to keep him level headed and I'm afraid this will push him the other way.

  Sorry that I am all over the place.... I HATE this game of cat and mouse, with my son being the pawn...I have a few days to prepare him for whatever may come, but I'm not sure where I'm at with this.
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  Does a brother have to be appointed an MS to be an account servant?

  by 4thgen in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  as many of you know, my ex-husband was removed as an elder for child abuse.

  i was told at the time he would never be reappointed in any capacity.

  yet i heard today he was appointed as an account servant.

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  Hello! As many of you know, my ex-husband was removed as an elder for child abuse. I was told at the time he would never be reappointed in any capacity. Yet I heard today he was appointed as an account servant. Does he have to be an MS or is it based on local needs? There are so many changes lately, it's tough to keep up. BTW I have no illusions that I was lied to....and eventually he will be reappointed. All the Best, 4thgen
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  Forgiving Loans the Watchtower Way

  by cofty in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  bank - thank you for maintaining your loan repayments for the past 3 years.

  to show our appreciation we are forgiving the balance of your loan.

  borrower - yeah!.

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  Thanks Cofty....
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  Just found out their about to baptise my 14 year old boy.

  by Crazyguy in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  there doing this right under my nose but i just found out.

  not sure what to do but would like your help on getting me wt information on my headship role and how they shouldn't be doing this with out my permission.

  also would like some help on showing my son the ramifications on what happens to someone when they get baptized and how they'll expect him to treat me.

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  4thgen

  Please keep us posted. We're all with you here!
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  2015-Watchtower Audit Checklist!

  by Atlantis in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  2015, audit checklist.. .. click the green download button.. .. 2015 checklist for audit of file .

  http://wwwb.fileflyer.com/view/aliira5.

  .. .. wtunderground!.

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  4thgen

  Typical CYA move. Agreed....too many lawsuits....
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  Something interesting!

  by John Aquila in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i was invited to a small get-together by a long time friend.

  we both served as elders for years.

  he is in his late 70s.

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  Actually, they are apostates, they just don't like that label. An apostate is someone that turns away from watchtower teachings, which is what they have done, and in a fairly significant way. Like all of us, we realize that the way the Watchtower describes apostates is not a fair representation.

  It would be safe to say that they refer to themselves as Jehovah’s Witnesses and the new organization JW.org as the apostates.JW.org has been the ones to change, not them.

  As far as the comments on confidentiality and how it would not be possible to keep such a thing under wraps….in my day (did I just say that???) an elder or servant would keep all matters confidential. So these old timers, could continue to do the same. No different. They haven’t changed their stripes.

  I would bet there are many others across the nation who are of the same view, only in smaller groups. A few weeks ago, there was a poster that got lambasted on this site because he felt that he and his family and a few others were acting as a true Christian within the realm of JW.org, but didn’t agree with the changes.

  Just sayin
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  It's not the same religion anymore.

  by punkofnice in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  that was a quote from a dyed in the wool jw recently.

  it was a complaint.. we all know that with 'new light(tm)' that the watchtower corporation's version of 'religion' has kept changing for a long time.

  since i remember.....and i go back a long way too.

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  It used to cause a stir if the brothers wore a YHWH label pin or it was put on licence plates. It was taking the name of the Lord too casually and they were counciled. Now they don't even proclaim it in that way, it's shortened to jw.org.
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  Elders are Complicit with WT Society in Child Abuse Scandals- Gonzalo Campos Case

  by flipper in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  of course, most of us realize this.

  however sometimes even on this board sometimes threads have stated that the jw elders have been occasionally painted as the " fall guys " who take the rap for the wt society leaders - which of course is true - to a degree.

  however- that being said , many times elders have failed to protect - or even have failed to advocate for child abuse victims when it has been within their power to do so.

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  Quote from recent Time magazine: "Those who covered this up are guilty" POPE FRANCIS, vowing at the close of his US trip at American bishops who concealed sexual abuse by clergy members would be held accountable."

  Who would have predicted that the pope would be more forthright than the GB?