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  Apostasy endorsed in this yesterday's Watchtower Study

  by doubtfull1799 in

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  “there may be occasions when it would be good for us to reconsider a choice or decision.

  it could be when the prevailing circumstances change.

  jehovah altered his decision at times when circumstances changed.

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  4thgen

  Interesting. What does the rest of the article indicate?
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  Link to the English version of the Quebec (French) documentary, "The Kingdom's Dirty Secrets" (About JW's hiding child abuse)

  by AndersonsInfo in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  here's a link to the english version of the quebec documentary, the kingdom's dirty secrets that aired in canada at the beginning of december.

  i was told that it's okay to share the documentary and post on social media.

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ajphgmt9jibarbara

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  4thgen

  Barbara, Excellent! Thank you for posting. Also, as always...thank you for all your hard work...Hugs, 4thgen
  
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  I feel really, really sorry for those born into the Jehovah's Witness religion

  by jambon1 in

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  some facts that make the difference between you and me:.

  1 - as a person raised by non jw family, my parents have never loved me based on conditions set out by a group of old men who they don't even know.

  how does it feel to know that you are in the unique situation where your parents brought you into the world and said 'i'll show love to you.

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  4thgen

  My parents were duped into believing that the end of the world was near. They believed that the religion they chose would save my life and the lives of those who would listen. In the context of saving a life, what is a missed birthday party or a Christmas gift?

  Yes, to be raised as a JW is restrictive and abusive. I am not raising my child as I was….but then again I know better.

  I’ve forgiven my parents and although I missed out on things, I understand their reasoning. I don't hold my parents or those that were tricked to the same standard as those who knowingly promoted a falsehood. As Jehovah's Witnesses we stood for what we believed and were valiant (and ignorant) in that regard.

  The people who should beheld accountable are those in power in the organization (past and present); who are aware of the falsehood and who wickedly manipulate the meek to promote their self interests, greed and lust.
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  Why Did JWs Abandon Brooklyn for the Sticks?

  by Room 215 in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  i may have missed this, but can anyone tell me what was the pretext the gb concocted to justify their abandonment of a perfectly suitable, high-profile, high-visibility complex in what is arguably the world's greatest metropolis for the bucolic isolation of upstate new york.

  any how does the move square with their purported belief in the imminence of armageddon?

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  4thgen

  Maybe it's as close to paradise as they can find at a bargain price and still be able to pocket the extra cash.
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  Today's Text - Do Not Be Afraid!

  by Divergent in

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  tuesday, november 29. do not be afraid.

  41:13.. jehovah purposed that his people proclaim the good news on an unprecedented scale in our day, and nothing can prevent him from accomplishing that purpose.

  just as he delivered the ancient nation of israel from babylon, jehovah has rescued his present-day servants from “babylon the great,” the world empire of false religion.

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  4thgen

  Good points! I overheard the text being discussed with my son tonight with his JW father. Thanks for the ammunition!
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  Where Does The Governing Body Stand On "Obeying The Superior Authorities" @ Romans Something Or Other?

  by Brokeback Watchtower in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  where do they stand of the issue obeying the governments even though they publicly teach that all governments are under satanic control and doomed to destruction by their jehovah deity.. and have they considered this scripture on their past and currant policies of not reporting any fellonies to the superior authority their elders have had to handle judicially and keep it confidential.

  and if they have taken into consideration what misimprisonment of a fellony is:.

  https://www.google.com/search?q=false+imprinonment&rlz=1c1chzl_enus716us717&oq=false+imprinonment&aqs=chrome..69i57.28245j0j8&sourceid=chrome&ie=utf-8#q=misimprisonment+of+a+felony.

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  4thgen

  I was always confused on how it worked together until I figured out that - it doesn't. They will obey when it is convenient for them. When they can cover up wrongdoing in the organization, it's suddenly god's will to disobey the authorities.
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  Preston Parker - Ex-JW Illinoisan Comedian

  by darkspilver in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  yep, another ex-jw comedian... preston parker.... .

  jesus, take the g*ddamn wheel already.

  preston parker grew up as one of jehovah’s witness.

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  This would make a great apost-fest night out!
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  "It's a cult, mom."

  by schnell in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  my mom has been extensively texting me, trying to argue that the un ngo scandal is not a big deal and that the child abuse scandal is to instigate the great tribulation.

  even worse, she kept saying how great it is that the gb is imperfect and fallible and that teaching changes all the time.

  maybe it was aggravation or impatience, but i finally just snapped and told her, "it's a cult, mom.".

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  "Judas Iscariot, and that may be the closest she will come to telling me I should go kill myself. "

  You've rocked her world. As is human, when people are hurt they get angry. You will be in for some tough times ahead with your mom. Hang in there and keep yourself grounded. She is in ignorance...whether she choses to stay there is up to her. You've taken the wise course and left. Congratulations. Remember not everyone will share our views. Breathe.
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  Update on U.S. Local Design/Construction Arrangement—November 2016

  by wifibandit in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  update on u.s. local design/construction arrangement—november 2016 video will be considered the week of november 7, 2016. english and spanish.

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  Kingdom halls needed in the Caribbean?They recently sold off the beautiful Branch in the Bahamas. Where did that cash go?! As a matter of fact, most of the halls in the back county were nothing more than glorified shacks. (It fit in with the surroundings, actually better) The assembly hall in jamaica was open air with benches. Maybe this is the spin.....construct lovely high end buildings in resort areas with free labor, then sell them off OR convert to "Bethel Traing Facilities" AKA vacation spots for the Borg...
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  Could this be the reason for one day assemblies

  by Sour Grapes in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  last saturday i sat through the one day assembly and i waited for the anticipated accounts report.

  for one day the costs were $10,000.

  even my wife questioned why the costs are so high and why don't they give a break down on the costs?

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  4thgen

  Twoy thanks for the video post above. It was bery interesting and makes perfect sense. Hugs, 4thgen