Posts by incognito2014

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Survey: How long were you in the cult vs what year you were baptized

by ILoveTTATT2 in

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hi people,.

i want as much data as possible on the effect of the internet on the time captured by the cult.. please answer the three following questions about yourself or about someone you know (for example, if your parents or grandparents were jw's and left).

1) were you raised as a jw, or did you convert?.

incognito2014

I have not read this whole thread so others may have commented similar already.

It seems to e that the whole basis for this data means that the only possible outcome is that people leave the "truth" in a shorter time more recently.

The reason is because your sample population is those that have left (even if mentally if not physically), i.e on this board. If someone came into the "truth" in the 1950's then they have a possibility of being a witness for 60 years or so, if they came in in 1990's then they could only do about 20 years but if they came in in 2010 they could only be a witness for a max of 5 years.

Granted some in the 60's would have lasted as a witness only a year or 2, but all of the 2010 would have only lasted a shorts time.

So obviously the later they came in the less time is was before they left.

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UK TV--next monday 24th aug---channel 5-----9 pm--escaping the witnesses

by stan livedeath in

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just see it advertised on tv--with photo of our friend from south wales

incognito2014

So angry. At the end of the programme the JWs gave a statement that said.

And I quote.

"If a family member has been shunned or disfellowshipped that does not sever the family ties and normal day to day dealings may continue"

Lying bastards!

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Poster country flags and privacy

by Simon in

the new forum originally had a little country flag next to each post showing the country that the post was made from based on the geoip encoding (the country the ip address is from).

before i switched over to the new site someone made an issue about it violating their privacy and i didn't want to complicate and confuse the switchover with policy debate at the same time as technical issues so removed the flags even though i disagreed.. someone has already requested it as a feature and i think it should be added back so i thought it's now time to open the discussion and get everyone's opinions.

first, the reason i think it should be shown:.

incognito2014

Simon

As I've said above, a flag is not "displaying people's information". It is a trait that someone has that is shared by millions of others and in no way identifies them.

As JWs form a small part of the population whilst it may be true that there will be millions of people who share a certain nationality it won't ever be true that millions of JWs share that trait of a single nationality. I just looked at the 2012 YB on jw.org and for example there are 7 witnesses in Norfolk Island.

It is good practice in surveys for example to anonymise (the spelling of that probably gave my own country away) the results by grouping where the numbers are very small in order to protect people.

The pain caused to many by being disfellowshipped is immense and in the rare circumstance that a person's nationality gives them away it may cause irreparable damage to their families and relationships.

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Poster country flags and privacy

by Simon in

the new forum originally had a little country flag next to each post showing the country that the post was made from based on the geoip encoding (the country the ip address is from).

before i switched over to the new site someone made an issue about it violating their privacy and i didn't want to complicate and confuse the switchover with policy debate at the same time as technical issues so removed the flags even though i disagreed.. someone has already requested it as a feature and i think it should be added back so i thought it's now time to open the discussion and get everyone's opinions.

first, the reason i think it should be shown:.

incognito2014

The opening page on this site says.

We are not affiliated with the WTB&TS in in any way and we take your privacy and security very seriously doing our utmost to protect your identity and provide a friendly, tolerant and informative environment where you can ask questions, share information and make new friends. Membership is completely free and anonymous so why not join today!

If the way in which the site will display people's information (that they don't want displayed) is going to change I believe that the statement I copied above would no longer be valid.

Sounds a bit bait and switch like to me.

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The biggest sell off of Kingdom Halls in Britain :Update

by raymond frantz in

the biggest sell off of kingdom halls in britain.

hi guys last night i posted this here but only a few notes as it was quite fresh and only announced lasdt night at the meeting.i have now updated article and included a couple of useful links about this matter .

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incognito2014

Could be one reason why they stopped the mideweek book study. This leaves the hall open to be shared by 4 congregations more easily.

If I was still in and a hall I worked on and donated to was being sold and the money sent to the society I would be most unhappy.

This was a sign that Christendom was goiung downhill, they had to sell their churches.

They local people are so gullible

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What song or line from a song bests describes your time as a JW?????

by karter in

waisted days and waisted nites.. freddy fender..

incognito2014

Relates to not while a JW but after.

Billy Joel - Got to begin again

Well so, here I am at the end of the road
Where do I go from here?
I always figured it would be like this
Still nothin' seems to be quite clear

All the words have been spoken
And the prophecy fulfilled
But I just can't decide where to go
Yes, it's been quite a day
And I should go to sleep
But tomorrow I will wake up and I'll know
That I've got to begin again
Though I don't know how to start
Yes, I've got to begin again, and it's hard

Well, it's been quite a while since I lifted my head
And I'm sure the light will hurt my eyes
I see the way that I've been spendin' my days
And reality has caught me by surprise
I was dreamin' of tomorrow
So I sacrificed today
And it sure was a grand waste of time
And despite all the truth that's been thrown in my face
I just can't get you out of my mind
But I've got to begin again
Though I don't know how to start
Yes, I've got to begin again, and it's hard

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Powerful photo

by zakharijah in

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friends

hi,.

i just stumbled upon this photo on facebook (pic by david j. m. coleman), and as they say, a picture is worth a thousand words.... .

.

incognito2014

Before I spotted the beggar that everyone focused on it struck me that the younger witness was wearing some sort of hoody, certainly not dress I would have ever seen while witnessing and seems to be on a mobile phone.

Granted I can't see the phone and he may be reading a publication intently, but that certainly looks like someone on a phone and not interested in the public at all.

To give him credit I would have been mortified if I had to stand there with that cart.

The organisation has completely lost its way as far as I can see. They think they are the centre of God's plans but in fact are entirely irrelevant.

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President not on governing body

by incognito2014 in

been out since about 1999. i was surprised to just read that the current president (adams) is not on the governing body.

what happened there?.

obviously prior to that the president was in charge not just of the adminstration but also seemed to be heavily involved in defining doctrine.. the president seems to have really taken a back seat.. i know this must be old news, but just showed how much i am out of touch.

incognito2014

Been out since about 1999. I was surprised to just read that the current President (Adams) is not on the Governing Body. What happened there?

Obviously prior to that the president was in charge not just of the adminstration but also seemed to be heavily involved in defining doctrine.

The president seems to have really taken a back seat.

I know this must be old news, but just showed how much I am out of touch. I guess it's true, "I have not been keeping up with Jehovah's chariot"

Was there a reason for this change?

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Hard time coping with shunning

by bsand20 in

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it's almost 1am and i can't sleep...again.

i hate to think the organization is still taking my sleep from me 16 years later but i can't help it.

i run a page on social media for ex jw support and advice and i'm usually there helping others but it definitely takes a toll on me when i'm having to argue and disprove jws that troll my page.

incognito2014

There seems to be a pattern where family who choose not to shun have suddenly started to. I was DF'd 15 years ago and my mother spoke to me until 18 moinths ago and suddenly stopped dead. She imagines that it will make me change my mind, but like Donny it has turned me further against them and I can only see the cruel cult that is totally man made since then.

I will never return and am so angry that mother is so gullible and such a bad decision maker in her life. All she has done is reinforce my view that you will know them by their fruits.

She has wasted the best part of her life for nothing and has lived though decades of broken promises but still clings on to every word and is more fanatical and dedicated than she ever was.

I always thought even after I left that they weren't a cult and they weren't brainwashed, but I was wrong on both counts. I was balanced and could see the positives and negatives. There are no positives left to see!

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Any members here from Cornwall, UK?

by quellycatface in

completely understand if you don't want to reveal yourself.

pm if you want to.. i was in a congregation in cornwall for 4 1/2 years, you see.. .

incognito2014

Yes, attended a few congregations over the last 30 odd years, stopped going about 13 years ago. Mainly mid Cornwall. My name probably gives away my feelings, don't really want to reveal myself but PM me if you wish.

Never had a PM so not sure what happens and whether I will spot it instantly. I mainly read rather then post so don't often log in so if I delay in responding to a PM please don't take it personally.