Posts by SuperBoy

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This site has been going for 13 years. Did you ever at one point fear armageddon?

by ILoveTTATT in

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friends

i am just wondering about all of you who have been on this site for long.

in all of the events that have happened since 2000 (for example, september 11th), have you at any point, even you die-hard apostates, felt like "oooh sh!t... i should go back to the kh"... just to have the world survive the latest disaster?.

what was the worst event for you, in terms of saying... "did i mess up???

SuperBoy

I'm conscious that I don't naturally "expect" a long future.

I have that too.
It's weird isn't it?
And yet, here we all are.

I told my mum (who asked me "What if it's true, what will you think then?") that I couldn't worship a god who seems intent on spreading misery piecemeal around the world.

I realise that if the tsunamis in Thailand and Japan never happened, that wouldn't strengthen your faith. But they did happen. And for the people who died, I believe they are at peace, there is nothing else. But for those left behind, the pain, the anguish, the grief. Touching generations, and thousands of people. And we are overseen by a loving god?

The 9/11 attacks shook me to the core. Again, if it didn't happen, we wouldn't all be going around saying how marvellous god is because a terrorist attack didn't happen, but they did happen. And again, misery and gloom sweeps around the world.

"Ah yes, but that's Satan's system. And Jehovah's timetable."

Well, how does mankind ever have a chance? We have been imperfect since Adam & Eve, and now we have Satan and his demons roaming around, causing mischief. How would we know how manking would do on their own two feet? Look at what we do - medical research, cures, striving to be better. Yes, it goes wrong and we have wars and awfulness, but maybe that is because god is allowing Satan free reign?

And also, why make it so difficult to find this god?

"Because Satan has made it difficult".

But if God is a god of love, and desires that no one die, you'd think he'd make it easier. No?

"People have to use their free will to choose".

But if people use their freewill in the wrong way, they are doomed to die anyway? How is that free will?

I am an athiest now. I can't square these circles anymore.
(I am typing this while Kingdom Melodies 4 plays. What the feck is wrong with me?!! Haha.)

We are on this planet for a blink. Make it the best you can.

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Why do so many exJWs promote Watchtower lies and cover-ups?

by Fernando in

several footnotes in the nwt correctly define apostasy as "unfaithfulness".. that is spiritual unfaithfulness/adultery/fornication/prostitution/harlotry.. in scripture the jews were called (spiritual) prostitutes (37 times in ezekiel chapters 16 and 23).. they claimed a relationship with the god of abraham.. yet they lusted after other gods.. and they had frequent wanton spiritual intercourse with these gods.. to cover-up their own lewd apostasy the watctower lyingly redefines the word to mean a dissenter (against the watchtower).. anyone who dissents is labelled an apostate.. ray franz discovered their apostasy.. he dissented.. he exposed their spiritual harlotry in detail (isocf and coc).. they lyingly labelled him an apostate.. and many if not most exjws say this is all fine.. even worse, many exjws proudly wear the label.. to show their proud support of watchtower lies and cover-ups.. how sad....

SuperBoy

Whenever I left, I realised I was responsible for my own decision to leave. I didn't want to shake someone elses faith.

So I didn't promote the 'lies', but I didn't try to deconstruct them either. I used to defend JWs on other forums. Usually posts about how awful it was that JW kids didn't celebrate Christmas, birthdays etc.

Until one post was from a non-JW who worked for a JW. And was gay. And he said that he had no problems, he found the JWs welcoming, self-depracating and not at all pushy. And that was the time I realised that it wasn't up to me to defend them.

Leaving the organisation isn't like changing jobs, and I was fully aware of what I was doing. However, I wasn't prepared for the genuine emotion I had from those I was leaving behind. And that was tough. And you can say it was the 'cult' at work, but I don't believe it was. There were real friendships, and admittedly, when the crunch came to the crunch, they chose their religion. But I expected them to do that.

What am I trying to say?

I think everyone who has left has a period of uncertaintly which can last for years. I don't expect my 30 years of indoctination to vanish in the 10 since I left. And I don't think I am in a position to encourage others to leave, knowing the emotional trauma that will be inflicted on the person.

It's like when you read stories about people who smoke or are obese and continue smoking/eating, even when their doctor has told them they will die otherwise. And they keep on doing it. Because the choice to quit has to be from the person doing the quitting. It can't be forced. No amount of facts and figures will convince someone to quit unless they really want to.

And isn't it better to live the new life rather than looking back?

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Paleo Diet. What do you think?

by DATA-DOG in

i have been suffering from fatigue, burning in my stomach, and i have always had canker sore issues as long as i can remember.

whether it's from stress or not, i can't say, but i might be getting an ulcer.

the burning in my stomach and intestinal puffiness is getting to be be chronic.

SuperBoy

How about a manna diet?

The Paleo diet is common sense, indeed. But as the post below points out, it's based on evolution. What did Adam and Eve eat?
Forbidden fruit.

THE ADAM AND EVE Forbidden Fruit DIET
Breakfast:
Chocolate, cider, oral sex.

Lunch:
Sponge cake, clotted cream, scones and pork scratchings, Beer, cunnilingus.

Mid Afternoon Snack:
Mars Bar, Twix, Kit Kat, some fornicating.

Dinner:
Foie gras, shepherds pie on hot buttered toast, Champagne. Sodomy.

Don't worry, I haven't discovered time travel, I only have one post left today so am editing this one!

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Topics not often discussed now

by jdubsnub in

when i was a kid in the early 90's there always seemed to be a mention of how demons posessing people or how if you saw a demon or something supernatural occuring mearly calling jehovah's name would rid you of the situation.

rarely now a days do you hear anything of the sort.

that got me to thinking, what are some other topics the society has backed off of?

SuperBoy

Blood in margarine!

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Did anyone enjoy singing the Kingdom Melodies?

by Kimmee in

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friends

did anyone actually enjoy singing the kingdom melodies at the hall?

some of them were fun to sing, some of them were corny.

my brother use to sing them loud but without any sound coming out of his mouth.

SuperBoy

I loved the Kingdom songs. Really.

"Responding to God's Love" - I loved the melody, and still do.
"Keep Your Eyes on the Prize" was another favourite.

Apparently when I was born my mum sang "Jehovah Is My Shepherd"

I still play the Kingdom Melodies on my computer, it helps me do the housework!

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Are you materialistic?

by Goldiver in

why, yes i am according to the jws.

this is an topic that has always irked me with the jws.

anyone who had a good paying job and nice things was materialistic.

SuperBoy

I was brought up not to be materialistic, but it had the opposite affect. I know want the things I couldn't have when I was younger.

Can't blame anyone else, credit cards got the better of me. But now I have a fifty inch telly. And holidays.

EDIT - I can't post for another 22 hours! Noooooooooooooooo!

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Are you materialistic?

by Goldiver in

why, yes i am according to the jws.

this is an topic that has always irked me with the jws.

anyone who had a good paying job and nice things was materialistic.

SuperBoy

My dad was given a talking to many years ago for taking a promotion.
By an elder who was known as the top earning sales rep for a nationwide company. That made me angry.

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Prayers that God answers. Any examples?

by punkofnice in

when i believed in god i tried not to pray for anything selfish.. after a while i began to think that a lot of things i was asking my imaginary friend in the sky for were selfish for some reason.. i do not ever remember a single thing i prayed for ever being answered.

if there was the appearance of an answer it was because i did mental gymnastics to make it fit the delusion that god had actually answered me.

there was never an obvious message/answer from god.

SuperBoy

I couldn't find my keys the other day, I prayed, and they turned up. In my coat pocket! Praise be!

*Oh, has someone done that joke?

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After years of Watchtower fighting the BAN in Russia.....

by Newly Enlightened in

i apologize if this topic was already covered, i didn't have time to look thru several pages of posts.... after several years of fighting their ban in russia.

russian court declares jw's literature extremist:.

http://en.ria.ru/russia/20140113/186483571/russian-court-declares-jehovahs-witness-brochures-extremist.html?fb_action_ids=530487500391762&fb_action_types=og.recommends&fb_source=other_multiline&action_object_map=%5b1377130229215916%5d&action_type_map=%5b%22og.recommends%22%5d&action_ref_map=%5b%5d.

SuperBoy

Russia isn't exactly the land of the free, whether I like JW literature of not, the current situation in Russia for anyone who is "different" is not good.

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Could you imagine Anonymous targeting the WT ?

by cookiemaster in

they have picked on cults before.

they basically went to warfare with the church of scientology, so what would happen if they would pick on the wt ?

let's say they would release to the public of lot of secret documents that discredit them, or at least attack the jw.org website.

SuperBoy

I think they have bigger fish to fry.