Posts by Notmyfirstrodeo

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hello

by fakefading in

hello my fellow "apostates".

just wanted to say hi.

i'm still in the borg but mentally out.

Notmyfirstrodeo

Excuse me, I'm pretty new here, what does TTATT mean?

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hello

by fakefading in

hello my fellow "apostates".

just wanted to say hi.

i'm still in the borg but mentally out.

I was born/raised as a JW by my Mom. I pioneered for 2 years after highschool because the new system was coming, and there wouldn't even be enough time for me to 1. get married, or 2. have kids, or 3. not have to worry about $ to raise these kids (who are now 33 and 35) because Armagedon was coming, so why would I want to go to college/university. It used to be called "drifting away" but I like this fade-away idea. Too bad I didn't do that. I've been DF'd for about 15 years now and my Mom won't talk to me, nor my son (my daughter is coming around). My oldest brother was a MS and he committed suicide when he was 31 and about a year ago my youngest brother did the same (he did his fading as soon as he left home), and he never gave me alot of details, but said that he was really messed up from being raised as a JW.

So please, if you have to pioneer while you're fading away, please get a good education/career, so life "ain't so tuff."

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WT Video on how to handle JWs contemplating suicide

by Oubliette in

http://www.mediafire.com/watch/cvas6fcrc9zca94/shepherding_instructional_suicidal_widow.avi.

i just watched beginning of the recently leaked video produced by the wtbts allegedly instructing elders how to treat jws contemplating suicide.

i am so apalled i cannot even begin to describe it!.

Notmyfirstrodeo

I have had two of my (siblings) brothers commit suicide. The first one was a Ministerial Serv. A few years after my first brother died, I was going into a clinical depression, but I had not been diagnosed. The elders came over for a "visit". When they left, one of them plunked down a printout regarding going to a mental facility......no discussion about it, just plunked it down and LEFT. That night I had my first nervous breakdown.

Suicide is Terminal Mental-Illness, per my Grief Support Group Leader.

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New Policy on Inactive Ones?

by Cynisister in

this may have been discussed, but i just recently was told that a km this past year stated that inactive ones are now to be treated as if they are df'd.

is this so?

cynisister.

Notmyfirstrodeo

Our family of 4 was ill for over 2 weeks and none of us got to the meetings. Not one sister, brother, elder, MS, phoned, came by, offered help.....then we go on a one week vacation and when we get back get a "strip" taken off us because we didn't let our bookstudy conductor know we went out of town. Didn't we know he was accountable for the flock??

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New Policy on Inactive Ones?

by Cynisister in

this may have been discussed, but i just recently was told that a km this past year stated that inactive ones are now to be treated as if they are df'd.

is this so?

cynisister.

Notmyfirstrodeo

I was a working Mom, had a husband that worked sometimes - seemed he had a way of getting laid-off alot. Anyway, I missed alot of meetings cause I was so f* exhausted .so one day one of the elder's wives phones me up JUST TO SAY she would not ask us over for supper because OUR FAMILY was NOT WORTHY. Now what the heck did my little children do that would not make them worthy to sit at their dinner table?

Mercy before "rules"

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New awake up on jw.org about suicide

by hoser in

they have printed a series of articles about suicide.

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Notmyfirstrodeo

About 30 years ago I lost my next oldest brother to suicide - our Mom raised us all in the truth. He was 30 and I was 31, both of us married, and my brother was a ministerial servant. I never got grief counselling, cause like I guess I was supposed to just be praying. About a year later, now also having trouble in my marriage, the elders came for a home visit, and as they were leaving, PLUNKED down some copied pages regarding mental health problems and the Mayo Clinic (If i remember right) - I had my 1st nervous breakdown that night. I mean they just PLUNKED it down on the table and LEFT......So 15 years ago I got d'fd for the 2nd time in my life and would not come back. Now almost a year ago my youngest brother has committed suicide. He "fell away" when he was in his 20's, before marrying - a "wordly" person. So one of the straws that could have broken him, was that he had started living with a woman, and our Mom (who is a JW) said she would have to shun him if he continued to live with this woman. But she was well aware that he celebrated all the "pagan" holidays and she said that becuase the elders didn't "deal" with him about all this, then she was okay with this, but he wasn't associated with the congregation before he died, so why would the elders "deal" with this!!! To honour my youngest brother, I now quote him "THIS is the most FXXXX'd up religion going!!!!"

I've just started going to A.A. because of my youngest bro's suicide I was going deeper and deeper into complicated grief and alcohol was helping the spion down. So with A.A. one of the 12 steps is to believe in a "higher power" and with having been a JW for 36 years, and I live with a c-i-l with someone whose trying to get a divorce from his 2nd wife, I feel pretty bad about thinking I can pray to Jehovah. After reading alot of things on this site, I'm thinking I should re-examine just what kind of god Jehovah is - We're doing all we can to get this divorce to go through, and we are living a decent life, will the Creator here my prayers?

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My take on the meeting yesterday.

by integ in

some of you are aware of where i'm at with this whole thing.

i still occasionally go to meetings for family reasons but my attendance has been lack luster at best.

i'd say i go about once a month if that.. i empathize with those who are wary of taking the ultimate stand for fear of losing their family.

Notmyfirstrodeo

BUB2

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My take on the meeting yesterday.

by integ in

some of you are aware of where i'm at with this whole thing.

i still occasionally go to meetings for family reasons but my attendance has been lack luster at best.

i'd say i go about once a month if that.. i empathize with those who are wary of taking the ultimate stand for fear of losing their family.

Notmyfirstrodeo

BUB2--why do you still go?

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My take on the meeting yesterday.

by integ in

some of you are aware of where i'm at with this whole thing.

i still occasionally go to meetings for family reasons but my attendance has been lack luster at best.

i'd say i go about once a month if that.. i empathize with those who are wary of taking the ultimate stand for fear of losing their family.

Notmyfirstrodeo

to BU2B - what was the exact article this was from, please

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My take on the meeting yesterday.

by integ in

some of you are aware of where i'm at with this whole thing.

i still occasionally go to meetings for family reasons but my attendance has been lack luster at best.

i'd say i go about once a month if that.. i empathize with those who are wary of taking the ultimate stand for fear of losing their family.

Notmyfirstrodeo

I'm new to examining these kind of comments

to BHU2B