Do you think that Armaggeddon is "near" or many, many years away? (page 3)

gaiagirl

I tend to think that the scriptural verses often quoted as "proof" of the nearness of Armageddon were actually written referring to deliverance of the Jewish population of the first century from the Roman forces which then ruled their lands, or the earlier Greek and Babylonian forces which preceded them, sort of a hoped for, "wishful thinking" dream. Later, when Constantine made Christianity the "state religion" of the Roman Empire in the 4th century, Christians living at that time considered many of those "prophecies" to be fulfilled.

plmkrzy

Or they eventually going to quit believing in this fantasy and look at reality?

I was always taught that it would happen when most believers stopped believing it would happen. So when we no longer expect it WHAMO! I don't know what I believe anymore. The bible has been written in such a way we can apply almost anything that happens to some kind of prophecy. Or we can just re-write it till it fits.

ICBehindtheCurtain

You know, in reference to this situation with the oil, by brother and I were talking about this, and he found out that there are in the US vehicles that run partially on ethanol, which is basically alcohol made from sugar cane juice, just that the gasolines we currently use here are only 15% ethanol I believe, well, in Brazil they are manufacturing cars that use only ethanol, eliminating their dependency on oil by 85%, pretty incredible huh? I will bet that doesn't happen here! there is too much dough at stake for the big corporations. There are natural resources available that don't ruin the earth, and there is plenty of it around, but it would bring corporations to their knees, and they won't allow this, there is solar energy, wind mill technology for example. I know it will get rough in the near future, but I think man will eventually find a way, to survive the catastrophe.

IC

luna2

I'm to the point that I don't care any more. There isn't one single thing I can do about it...and if God expects me to hunt and peck through all the religions of the world trying to find the ONE that truly represents Him so that I can be "saved", well then, I'm doomed to destruction because I'm not doing it. I don't have that much time left. Took me 20 years to figure out that JW's were full of crap. Gives me a headache just thinking about it. LOL

Doubtfully Yours

I truly believe, in my heart of hearts, that even if I live to 100, I still will not see armageddon.

The longer I live the less I believe in the concept.

DY

xjwms

I agree with Blondie

Living in the moment, and everything around you.

Armaggeddon, ......did'nt they make a movie about it, ... or called Armaggeddon?

tetrapod.sapien

What are your thoughts posters do you believe that Armaggeddon is "near" or is it many, many years into the future?

neither, of course.

i think that JWs can keep saying that the end is near, because when it continually does not show up, they just keep reminding themselves that a day to jehovah is as a thousand years to us. and so, they pretend to be patient.

same goes for jesus-heads and their rapture.

TS

Gerard

End of the world predictions have been common throughout Christianity and other religions for almost 2000 years. Thus, the public has little to fear from "prophets" who predict a particular date for the world's end.

BrendaCloutier

It happened in 1975! Doncha remember?

I'm with Blondie. I don't care.

Double Edge

To some.... "Peak Oil" is a myth...

Oil Reserves Are Increasing

by George Crispin
by George Crispin

Eugene Island is an underwater mountain located about 80 miles off the coast of Louisiana in the Gulf of Mexico. In 1973 oil was struck and off-shore platform Eugene 330 erected. The field began production at 15,000 barrels a day, then gradually fell off, as is normal, to 4,000 barrels a day in 1989, Then came the surprise; it reversed itself and increased production to 13,000 barrels a day. Probable reserves have been increased to 400 million barrels from 60 million. The field appears to be filling from below and the crude coming up today is from a geological age different from the original crude, which leads to the speculation that the world has limitless supplies of petroleum.

This really interested some scientists. Thomas Gold, astronomer and professor emeritus of Cornell held for years that oil is actually renewable primordial syrup continually manufactured by the earth under ultra hot conditions and tremendous pressures. This substance migrates upward picking up bacteria that attack it making it appear to have an organic origin, i.e., come from dinosaurs and vegetation. As best I have found so far Russian scientists support his position, at least that petroleum is of primordial origin. There is now plenty of evidence around proving the presence of methane in our universe. It is easy to see it as a part of the formation of the earth. Under the right conditions of temperature and pressure, it converts to more complex hydrocarbons.

Roger Andersen, an oceanographer and executive director of Columbia’s Energy Research Center proposed studying the behavior of this reservoir. The underwater landscape around Eugene Island is weird, cut with faults and fissures that belch gas and oil. The field is operated by PennzEnergy Co. Andersen proposed to study the action of the sea bottom around the mountain and the field at its top and persuaded the U S Dept of Energy to ante up ten million which was matched by a consortium of oil giants including Chevron, Exxon, and Tex Corp. This work began about the time 3-D seismic technology was introduced to oil exploration. Anderson was able to stack 3D images resulting in a 4D image that showed the reservoir in 3 spatial dimensions and enabled researchers to track the movement of oil. Their most stunning find was a deep fault at a bottom corner of the computer scan that showed oil literally gushing in. "We could see the stream," says Andersen. "It wasn’t even debated that it was happening."

Work continued for five years until funds ran out and they were unable to continue. With the world having 40 years of proven reserves in hand it is difficult to interest the major oil producers in much exploration, let alone something done merely for research, and so far from the current accepted theory of a fossil origin for oil.

Similar occurrences have been seen at other Gulf Of Mexico fields, at the Cook Inlet oil field, at oil fields in Uzbekistan, and it is possible this accounts for the longevity of the Saudi Arabian fields where few new finds have been made, yet reserves have doubled while the fields have been exploited mercilessly for 50 years.

Not only can the doom and gloomers not show us running out of the natural resources we recycle, but now there appears to be good odds of a limitless supply of petroleum working its way up to where we can capture it.

A caveat: Gold’s theory is not yet accepted by all scientists, probably all the more reason to trust it.

April 6, 2005

George Crispin [send him mail] is a retired businessman who heads a Catholic homeschooling cooperative in Auburn, Alabama.

Do you think that Armaggeddon is "near" or many, many years away?

Oil Reserves Are Increasing

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