NA, so sorry that you had to go through that, it just illustrates what a "loving" organisation most of us on here have left.
"No Apologies is no longer one of Jehovah's Witnesses"
by No Apologies 45 Replies latest jw friends
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stevenyc
Was he the ONLY person in the room with you at the time? Remember the two witness rules!
steve
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Dansk
NA,
The guy was on YOUR property. He was in YOUR house.
When my daughter started to move her things out of the house after her mother and I told her we were exiting the Org., one of the people she brought round was an elder. I told him to leave my house immediately, which he did. Later, my younger son brought to my attention that the elder had his head in the crack of the door listening to our conversation. I opened the door fully and told him to get off my property immediately, which he did.
I later found out that he reported everything he heard to the body of elders and he did our marking talk (bet he enjoyed that as he revels in the limelight).
The point is, you had the right to tell the elder to get out of your house with his wife and for them both to get off your property. Your wife would have been unhappy but then you could have told her that she had reneged on the agreement. You could have 'phoned the police if the elder had refused (that would have made him wet his pants).
As for appealing any DFing or DAing, would you really want to? I say let the Watchtower carry on with its childish games and for the elders to revel in their perceived positions of power and glory. You're a far bigger and better man than any of that!
I'm only sorry that your marriage has broken up because your wife has failed to see that you are right about what you have discovered about Watchtower. So many marriages have been wrecked because of this heinous organisation. One day it will have to pay the consequences in full.
All the best for your future,
Ian
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jukief
No Apologies, sorry to hear you're going through this. I got cornered, too, by several sets of elders at various time (one of them my brother-in-law!), but no one ever DAed or DFed me. So maybe it won't work out as you fear. Hang in there. I'd give you a big hug if I were there (OK, well, maybe I wouldn't). :-) Julie
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outnfree
(((NA)))
Sorry for the ambush! So sorry that the title of your thread isn't a happy, conscious decision on your part, but perhaps you won't be DA'd after all, if that is your preference.
outnfree
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startingover
There was a time when I was sure something I said would lead down the DA route but it never materialized. Hope that's the case with you as it makes things easier in dealing with family and friends without the label.
Yup, the ole beard. Actually, that's mainly why I keep hair on my face, I feel it's a sure sign of where you stand.
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Billygoat
((((Noap)))) I'm so sorry about this. Stories like this just make my blood boil.
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I quit!
Sorry to hear what you are going through. Rude aren't they? Sticking their noses in your personal life. In your house and didn't even have the decency to give you their names.
I can only speak for myself but I think I would feel some sense of relief if they df'd me. Clean break, new start good I'm rid of them is what I would be thinking.
I think the problem many have when leaving the witnesses is giving them any power at all. You need to take control of the situation out of their hands. My house, my life my rules. When you are ambushed like that it is hard to think of how to handle the situation correctly. I think you handled it pretty good. No one got hurt. What I think would be good to do in a situation like this is have one of my friends show up with a video camera. Inform everyone that what happens will be recorded an you need there consent to be videoed at the begining of the recording. I'm sure they wouldn't want to stick around under those terms. Isn't the a scripture about those in darkness fear the light because they don't want their dark deeds exposed? If they refused I would ask them why do fear their behavior being recorded. I would tell them the only reason I can see is because you plan on behaving badly. In the small likelihood they did agree they would be on their best behavior, you know good witness and all of that crap.
Hang in there. And again I have to say I think you handle yourself pretty well considing the morons you are being force to deal with. -
No Apologies
Thanks for all the replies and well wishes guys and gals!
To some of you that commented that I should have told the guy to remove himself from my property, I would have been happy to do that, since technically I am still an owner. But I have been advised by my attorney and others that since I have been living elsewhere for over a year, my rights are somewhat... vague. My lawyer has also advised me that as long as the divorce is in progress, I need to be very very careful what I do and say.
As I said, as soon as I got there on Saturday and saw him there, I should have left. I would have been totally within my rights to refuse to go along with an arrangement that my wife had changed without telling me.
I will be talking to my lawyer today, hopefully I can get through to her the potential harm that my wife has inflicted on me by her deception.
No Apologies