by Poztate 26 Replies latest jw friends
Years ago just before my exit from "the truth" I had a chat with my father inlaw about changing and conflicting doctrines in the WT.
I happened to use the word WRONG ....WOW what a reaction I got. I was reamed out on the spot.They are not wrong...They are NEVER wrong...... It is "new light"
In the next hour I could not get him to say or even think the"W" word. He was a good elder and he was in the truth™
It was very frustrating. Anybody else have a "new light" experience??
Well - not directly like the one you describe. But the strong feeling of that permeated all the congs I was a part of, for sure.
BTW - good to see you Poztate. Have not seen you for a while - or have I just not paid attention?
Jeff
BTW - good to see you Poztate. Have not seen you for a while - or have I just not paid attention?Jeff
Hey Jeff,
I type with two fingers.I been around but more in lurker (lazy) mode.
I type with two fingers.I been around but more in lurker (lazy) mode.
Ya' gotta jump into the fray more often, we miss your posts. We take two finger posters too. LOL
Jeff
The same one. They aren't wrong, they have just corrected themselves. What they used to teach was right for that time.
So, if they were right...and...corrected themselves...aren't they now...WTF????
AuldSoul
I agree with you guys. It seems to be a language issue. You can use words like, error or mistake and can only use the word 'false' with the word 'expectations' following it. They would prefer you not use 'present truth' either.
My mother came over to visit us a year ago, and brought two other witness friends along for a USA trip. They stayed with us for a while, and at one point one of her friends decided it necessary to start the old preaching routine.
Well she started going on about how short a time we have left, and so I asked her what made her think this. She explains how the world civilization in collapsing, and threw in a few diseases and earthquakes as you'd expect.
So I asked her how she felt about the generation passing away, that would not pass away before the end.
She, in the most patronizing manor, put me in my place explaining how that was old light, and didn't matter anymore.
This was news to me. I laughed. And, asked how is it that you could be controlled for so many years knowing that the date never mentioned for armageddon was intrinsically connected to the seventy / eighty year olds had become misinformation.
Que Cognative dissonance. She laughed at me because obviously, I was the stupid one. Go figure!
steve
That was a solid teaching until 1995 and many JWs today still don't understand how and what changed. Many of the ones who did felt like they received a kick to the stomach and some even left.
Makes you wonder what basic "truth" will change in the next 10 years.
God never changes according to the Bible.
Watchtower light is always changing.
Like building a house on sand.
Blondie
Blondie,
the nest biggie could well be the blood issue.
steve
http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/16/97946/6.ashx#1725774
What scripture says that JWs can now accept blood fractions from the four primary components from products made from stored blood? Yet that is what the new WT policy is regarding blood transfusions.
*** w00 6/15 p. 29 Questions From Readers
Do Jehovah’s Witnesses accept any medical products derived from blood?
Yet, there is a basic simplicity. The above material shows that Jehovah’s Witnesses refuse transfusions of both whole blood and its primary blood components. The Bible directs Christians to ‘abstain from things sacrificed to idols and from blood and from fornication.’ (Acts 15:29) Beyond that, when it comes to fractions of any of the primary components, each Christian, after careful and prayerful meditation, must conscientiously decide for himself.
Just as blood plasma can be a source of various fractions, the other primary components (red cells, white cells, platelets) can be processed to isolate smaller parts. For example, white blood cells may be a source of interferons and interleukins, used to treat some viral infections and cancers. Platelets can be processed to extract a wound-healing factor. And other medicines are coming along that involve (at least initially) extracts from blood components. Such therapies are not transfusions of those primary components; they usually involve parts or fractions thereof. Should Christians accept these fractions in medical treatment? We cannot say. The Bible does not give details, so a Christian must make his own conscientious decision before God.
It is now a choice based on personal conscience for a JW to accept products such as Polyheme, made from outdated stored blood, down to the fraction hemoglobin, from one of the four major blood components, red blood cells.
There is no scripture supporting this because the scriptures the WTS has used all along forbid the storing of blood. Ergo, there would be nothing for the manufacturers to use to make these hemoglobin based products.
This article by a doctor is interesting and illuminating as well.
http://www.jwic.com/wt-blood-6-15-04.htm
Several JWs have accepted hemoglobin-based products which are easily verifiable through the internet. I have even talked to the local WT Hospital Liaison Committee and been assured that it was my choice to use these products without any fear of being disfellowshipped.
But there are no scriptures--just the one about not storing blood and these products being made out of stored blood. Sounds to be that the WTS is make the rules not the Bible.
Blondie
