17 reasons why Christianity is a reasonable faith (page 3)

tetrapod.sapien

rexanne,

Why not try to rebut the essay itself?

i do rebut the essays from other sites that you post, but it doesn't stop you from posting more insanity. plus, you dodge the issue by asking me to rebut the essay, which would be easy. YOU, have the burden of proof, since YOU posted the essay, and YOU have the implicit assertion in god jesus.

Anyways, when we study the facts that are acually observable and measurable, we are led to the conclusion that the best explanation for our existence is that there is an Intelligent Designer.

non sequitur. argument from design. argument from ignorance.

We do not have to prove any of your four points. We offer our conclusion as a more rational theory than naturalists have to offer.

sorry. the rules apply to you too big boy. you make an extraordinary, unparsimonious, uneconomical assertion, YOU have the burden of proof.

you don't get it do you? you say you offer a rational conclusion, that creates more questions than there are answers for, is unfalsifiable, and YOU think that YOU are beyond the burden of proof? quit wasting our freaking time!

After that fact, it is my opinion that Christianity provides the most reasonable explanation for WHY we are here and the truth about eternity.

your "opinion" is not yours at all. it was made for you by many others before you, and you accepted it like you accepted gravity. if it was your opinion, there wouldn't be a billion other apes that believe the same thing.

christianity is a farce. i don't expect you to see it, what being such a hot shot member and all.

TS

gumby

There can be only one good explanation: Christianity succeeded because from the cross came victory, and after death came resurrection! The shame of the cross turns out to be one of Christianity's most incontrovertible proofs!

Hey Rex........you left out part of what Jesus was supposed to do.......didn't ya now fella? He told some of his diciples they wouldn't die before he returned....didn't he? He also said he was going away to get them a place ready and recieve them home and they thought he meant real 'soon like'......din't he? He also told them when they saw Jerusalem surrounded by armies......the end was near and his return would follow.....didn't he? Jesus also revealed to John in Revelation that he would come...."quickly"...didn't he?

Ya know what Rexy? I think Jesus should have at least gave them a hint that he really meant it would be a couple-a thousand years before he'd come back..... and not taken off like he did knowing he gave them the impression it would happen in their lifetime. I'll bet you think he'll come in your lifetime......doncha Rex?

Gumby

trevor

Christianity is reasonable to Christians because they are Christians.

All belief is reasonable to the person who believes. All behaviour is reasonable to the one who is exhibiting the behaviour.

Mating with a sheep is reasonable behaviour - if you are a sheep. It is so accepted among sheep that they don’t even bother to stop eating grass while it is going on. Of course eating grass is also considered reasonable by the sheep.

Sheep do not have a choice. If they did have a choice maybe they would chose to come this side of the fence.

It is when people choose to live as sheep that other people ask questions.

Cygnus

gumby, there are a multitude of texts in the epistles that indicate a belief in a quick- second coming/parousia. And I'm sorry but I just don't see how Matthew 16 and the coming with the glory of God the Father and rendering judgement with angels at the side of the Son of Man occurred at the Transfiguration. Preterist christians handle this well, but then they're faced with an entirely spirit resurrection which is heresy to traditional Christianity - the resurrection of the flesh. As has been stated by so many, it's no wonder so many sects of christianity have developed. And if it were as simple as "accept Jesus into your heart and accept God's grace" the entire Bible could have been written in less than 20 pages.

Shining One

Hi Gumby,
I continue to be amazed at how surface reading of scripture leads to such errors in the meaning of the texts. Its hard to tell where to begin taking your interpretations to task. Maybe I will have time later if you will take one scripture, state your understanding then let me tell you what I understand it to mean.
Rex

Shining One

Hey Trevor,
>It is when people choose to live as sheep that other people ask questions.

Do you mean that applies to people who adopt evolution and naturalism as a belief system because it is the popular thought of the day?
Rex

Shining One

Thanks for the point, Ianone.
Rex

gumby

24:34: I assure you, this generation
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will not pass from the scene before all these things take place.

Howdy Rex. If you'll read the verses leading up to this scripture, you'll see they are in relation to Jesus immediate diciples questions as to how THEY would know when their master would come back and take them to his kingdom.....far away from the harsh Roman bondage they were under.

It' only honest and completely plain to see that Jesus led his close followers( his diciples he was addressing) to believe they would be rescued by him in their lifetime..............not thousands of years in the future through a resurection from the dead.

Gumby...who can't spell worth a damn

Robert K Stock

Rex:

Atheists like myself are not the ones who have any proving to do. Medical science does not allow for a woman to become pregnant without a man. It is your wild assertions that screams "Where's the proof?" My statements are based on observable, testable reality. Not the dreams, fantasies and delusions of religious faith.

Christianity is no different then Hinduism, Mithraism, Shamanism or any of the thousands of religions invented by humans. They all have their hard core diehard believers, but they are all inventions of human minds whose claims shatter in the light of objective scrutiny.

trevor

Shining One - you asked:

“It is when people choose to live as sheep that other people ask questions.”
Do you mean that applies to people who adopt evolution and naturalism as a belief system because it is the popular thought of the day?

This is a fair question. So in fairness I must say that people who choose to follow any belief system, because it is popular, are acting like sheep.

However, Christians are specifically encouraged in the Bible, to exhibit sheep like traits, while a dedicated evolutionist believes in survival of the fittest, which is a very different philosophy.

17 reasons why Christianity is a reasonable faith

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