Why is Jehovah organization or Jehova's Witness so critizise? (page 4)

mrsjones5

Isn't that wierd?

Well I dont call my dad by his given name

betty boop

Mastodon your avatar is positively frightening No offense

I think instead of attacking Toer we should continue trying to make him/her understand why we feel the way we feel.

Toer, if you were to open your mind and heart and explore all the educational tools out there, OUTSIDE THE ONES THE SOCIETY PROVIDES, you will see that there have been a lot of lies and mis-conceptions in the teachings and doctrines of the JW's. You have to make a PERSONAL decision to feed your mind.

mrsjones5

Actually toer attacked first. I believe people should be prepared to take what they dish out. You dont want rudeness then dont be rude. You want people to be nice to you then be nice.

daystar

By the way I know my grammer is great but I'm a Adult. Ok! I'm sorry you guy have great animosity toward JW and I guess that what Jesus said is true that this hate towards Jehovah's organization would occur. It's just sad, that you were a JW and that know your being rude and calling me a troll

toer

You should understand, again, that most of the people here felt that they were badly, badly wronged by the Society. And when I say wronged, I mean many of us have had our lives robbed of us, our families robbed of us, our free minds robbed of us...

So, please, understand if you find some animousity here.

That being said... There are others here that can do a much better job than I at this, but I'll throw some things out for you to look into. Look into them from all sides:

Watchtower Bible & Tract society's past relationship with the United Nations (The Great Beast), paying special attenion to what was agreed to.
The word "generation" had its definition miraculously changed when the Governing Body began to realize that Armageddon had not occured yet and the "generation (of 1914) that shall not pass away" before the end of days was indeed passing away.
All of the dates the Society has used in the past, how this was "old light".
Crisis of Consciousness by Ray Franz, who was on the Governing Body. You can find it on Amazon.com

Check_Your_Premises

I think I might have scared toer off with the transplant question.

If I lost my dad because he refused an organ transplant, and then a few years later, they removed the ban. I would probably have some hate.

Or what if I believed the org when they told me 1975 would probably be, but we aren't sure, but we are God's org, it might be the end of the world. Then I sold all my stuff to pioneer. Put off school. Slaved away. Then when it didn't happen I was told it was my fault for believing such a thing. Yeah, I might feel some hate.

Or what if I was some guy with a family. Then my wife joined the jw. Then she tried to get my kids to join. Since I didn't want to join, I get a lot of flack because it is the truth. Something must be wrong with me for not wanting to accept God's truth. Now my kids think I am bad. Now they think I am going to die at Armageddon even though I am a Christian. The Bible sure doesn't say you have to join the right group to have salvation. Think the guy on the torture stake next to Jesus. Think the jailer who released Paul in Acts 16. Think the Ethiopian eunich. Think about Cornelius. Not one of those guys had to join the right group!!!

Yeah, I might feel some hate if I was that guy. But that wouldn't be very Christian.

greendawn

Most people here don't hate the simple members of the JWs but rather the GB and the Watchtower society corporation because they are liars, irrational and absurd people.

in a new york bethel minute

I'm sorry you guy have great animosity toward JW and I guess that what Jesus said is true that this hate towards Jehovah's organization would occur

can you quote jesus saying something about jehovah's organization? i'd love to hear it straight from his mouth

kid-A

Toer,

Just curious, what do you think your Elders would say if they knew you were here on this website talking to Apostates? The fact that you are here simply testifies to the fact that you dont accept the teachings of the Society, which has told you again and again to avoid all apostate information. What brings you to our community? If you are open minded, you will soon learn the "truth" about the "truth".....spend a few hours on www.freeminds.org and follow all the links to the information posted there if you want the answer to your original question.

Purza

They dont scare people they respect others

Totally not true. They basically tell you if you leave the organization you will die and that there is no hope for you. I was scared to death to leave.

Both of my parents are still living and want nothing to do with me. They have chosen the religion over their own flesh and blood. Where is the balance in that?

Purza

Confession

I'm going to paste my comment from another thread you were involved in, toer...

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toer,

I do understand where you're coming from, but please hear me out. There are a wide variety of people who come into this forum, but understand that most of us--after perhaps many years of being loyal Jehovah's Witnesses--came to find out that the Watchtower Society is not what it purports to be. I know you may not hold this belief, but we do. And if you can be open-minded enough to put the Watchtower Society itself under the light of scrutiny, you'll find that they themselves have been doing the "attacking."

Although they try to put a pleasant face on their teachings, they do--as you must know--teach that anyone not a baptized Jehovah's Witness, in good standing with the organization, attending all possible meetings, and actively engaging in the Watchtower's field ministry will die at Armageddon. What's worse? Jeff's believing that JWs are judgmental? Or JWs believing all those not in their group are condemned to everlasting destruction?

I know that, while a JW elder, I was particularly sensitive to individuals. But I also know that many, many of my fellow JWs were not so. There was a fellow elder who, while conducting the bookstudy, referred to homosexuals sneeringly as "a bunch of fags." There was also a past-70 pioneer sister who used the same ugly slur. What about those of other religions? Yes, I recall trying to be an influence toward more respectful attitudes about these people. But, again, most were not this way. When you are part of an organization that teaches categorically that ALL other religions are part of "the world empire of false religion," are a part of "Satan's seed," etc, you produce a good deal of followers who sneer, mock, and speak disdainfully of any who hold a strong hope other than yours.

Don't agree? Then think... What comments might generally come from those in your cargroup if, after getting back in the car, you told them your householder had said they were a "born-again Christian" and they were looking forward to the "rapture" that Christ foretold? Would they say: "Oh well that's nice. Good for them"? Probably not. They would likely heave pathetic sighs, comment about how clueless they were, and suggest that they'll be getting a big surprise at Armageddon. So wouldn't it be appropriate for me to ask you, "Where is all the hate coming from, toer?"

Now no one is saying JWs--or any group of people--don't have the *right* to believe as they do. But, upon learning what we have, we now see how judgmental we were as JWs. Heck, maybe some of us still are. But I totally relate with Jeff's post, as I have begun to feel the same way.

Why is Jehovah organization or Jehova's Witness so critizise?

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