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You left your 4 and 1 year old with a 15 year old for the weekend ????????????
by booker-t 30 Replies latest jw experiences
Tophat
You left your 4 and 1 year old with a 15 year old for the weekend ????????????
Yep! vitty, I left my kids with what I was told by her mother a JW, was a very mature young girl and if she needed anything her mother said she would be right there to help. Keep in mind I knew this couple and her daughter. They were not strangers. I should have known something was wrong when the daughter ask for the baby-sitting money up front because she needed a new dress. I was so damn gullible! I am sure my kids were not harmed. They were fed and clean and seem to be happy when we came back.
I have known of several in my time, most of them got d/f'd .. but
My friends daughter would have been no more than 13 and not baptised. No question of "abuse" exactly, just under age sex. I know that a Police report was taken but not the outcome .
There was the girl who confessed to sex once she had been seen at a pre natal clinic. She seemed sad over the expected child but nothing else, I remember telling her in the committee that there is no such sin as pregnancy, it is just the result of her actions but she did not seem to grasp the difference . She was d/fd , then reinstated then faded and then d/f'd again
Here was a girl who literally did nothing wrong but walked down a street and was attacked.
They'll always find a reason.
I knew a young sister who got raped on a night out and was reproved for drinking so much she 'let' it happen. Nice. When the baby was born, the poor little thing was shunned by everyone. No sisters would pick the 'child born of sin' up for a cuddle and 3 years on she's only just starting to get attention.
Regardless of how innocent her mother was in the situation, that little baby was the true innocent. Not even any compassion for her.
I know one girl 15 yrs old I think. Was seen in a few backseats for being so young, she wasn't baptized. Gave birth to the baby at 15 years old. And they held a baby shower for her. Her parents weren't pioneers or elders. But everyone acted as if it was all ok.
I know another couple (both baptized) who ran off and got married in another state. 12 months after their wedding day gave birth to a baby and those same elders told people not to go to the baby shower, Now either those elders arent' too good at math or were holding a grudge because the couple ran off and got married.
Now that's fair isn't it.
Do you know of any "baptized" JW's single sisters that got "pregnant"?Yep - not as uncommon as one would think.
Jeff
Yes, a friend of mine got pregnant and was publicly reproved. One year later, I'm pregnant and sitting in front of the elders, thinking I'd get publicly reproved as well, because 'loving' elders would never df me in my hour of need, especially since I had no family around. Yeah right. I got df'd. I asked if they thought I was repentent, and they said "yes, but you knew better than to fornicate." Amazingly, when I appealed, I got told the same thing. I would have never asked to be reinstated if my family weren't JW's. Over the years, as I've shared this with others, I've heard many cases where the elders abused their power. That helped me to decide I didn't need the elders help with spiritual matters and I couldn't rely on the congregation for help because the friendship was conditional. This was my first hint that all was not well in the spiritual paradise of JWs.
Here's an interesting story for your consideration:
About 8 years ago, my oldest daughter met a young man and fell head over heels in love, and guess what? She got pregnant. Well, it happens all the time, but it can sure stress out the family when it happens in yours, trust me on that. Before the baby arrived, my daughter got married and now my oldest grandchild is 7 years old. She's the light of our lives and we don't know what we'd do without her.
My daughter did not get disfellowshipped. Why? Because we never allowed her to get baptized. By the time she was around 10 or 11 years old, the brothers & sisters were already pressuring us to make her get baptized, but we nipped it in the bud. We had already seen too many disfellowshipped kids, and we knew better than to put our own child in such a vulnerable postion. And that was that, period. The brothers looked at us like we were crazy, but my wife and I didn't care. As my daughter progressed through her teen years, we strongly discouraged her from getting baptized, and we did the same with our other 3 kids. We had seen too many disfellowshipped kids and saw first hand how families just fall apart over it. None of my kids ever got baptized, thank goodness.
So my daughter got pregnant out of wedlock and didn't get disfellowshipped. No shunning. We able to be there for her and support her through a difficult, life-changing event. Even though we were inactive, all of our old witness friends and family even threw her a big gala shower. Isnt that amazing? They treated her like she was human. We thought it was a sweet, loving thing to do and we really appreciated it.
Now here's the interesting part: At the same time my daughter got pregnant, 2 young unmarried sisters in neighboring congregations also got pregnant, and guess what? They didn't get a big gala shower with all their friends and family there to support them. No, since they were baptized, they got disfellowshipped. They got shunned. In the most trying time of their lives, their support system pulled out on them. Isn't that awful? Can you imagine anything so unloving? We really appreciated what the "friends" did for our daughter, but those other 2 girls needed just as much love and support, and they were cast out like so much garbage. The double standard is unbelieveable.
David
I do. The story goes,or should I say HER story goes.. this sister falls into bad association goes out clubbing with her new friends, who were witnesses. Somehow through the night she gets separated, raped, gets pregnant, doesnt tell a soul til she finds out she's pregnant then the rape story comes out, never reported to the police, she didn't even seem slightly traumatised, and I think just about everybody thought she had gone out, had sex, got pregnant and couldn't really pretend it was immaculate conception so said she had been raped, of course nobody could dispute it and no action was taken by the cong. Everybody in the cong gossiped but her family rallied round (course it was elders family) and she had the baby, and is now a single mother. One thing I hated was the double standards!!!
Poppy xx
David10.. this is something I'm starting to feel very strongly about! I was 13 when I got baptised! and at the time the WT was bringing out examples of 10 year olds etc.. can they not see a reason behind Jesus being 30 before he was mature enough to accept the full knowledge!!!! Who in their right mind would ask a 10 year old to make a decision that affected their whole lives..
I would never push my children to baptism, especially now, but I would not ALLOW them to be baptised before they had some idea of what they were taking on!
Poppy x