Why Christianity is all about judgement! (page 2)

jwfacts

Heres the JW version of the joke
You could change it to,

Are you Protestant
Wow me too. Are you Baptist or an Adventist.
Adventist
Wow me too. Are you a follower of Russell or Ellen White.
Russell
Wow. Me too. Are you a Russellite, Covenant Bible Student Pastoral Bible Institute, Berean
Bible Institute, Associated Bible Student, Jehovah's Witness, Worldwide Church of God, Concordant Publishing Concern, Assemblies of Yahweh, or Layman's Home Missionary Movement.

JeffT

Ozzie,

I was a new Christian when I became a dub, I didn't know anything really about being a Christian and I got pulled in by the dubs. Not knowing any better, for years I believed all that nonsense about the disorder in "Christendom." Part of my process of getting out was the discovery that almost all Christians get along quite nicely thank you.

My wife and I now belong to an independent church. We get guest speakers from all over the place. Nobody cares what church they go to.

ozziepost

JeffT:

My wife and I now belong to an independent church. ; We get guest speakers from all over the place. ; Nobody cares what church they go to.

Sounds ideal! I rather fancy yours is the closest to what was experienced in the first century with their house churches.

JeffT

Sounds ideal! I rather fancy yours is the closest to what was experienced in the first century with their house churches.

It would have been a rather large house. We have two services every Sunday, each is attended by 2500-3000 people.

free2beme

I've preached on Judgment and it was considered a rarity as well as a difficult topic to handle,

It is rare, as it is the part of Christianity that would turn people away if they did heard it. Yet it is there and a part of Christianity, a big part. Just because your church does not focus on it and speak of love and salvation, does not remove it or lower the meaning. That is my point, Christianity is all about judgement, unless you just choose not to talk about it. Then it is "all about denying the judgement of Christianity to see it as something other then what it is, judgement."

ozziepost

Free,

Are you back-pedalling?:

Yet it is there and a part of Christianity, a big part

Your statement seems at odds with the all-encompassing title of the thread "Christianity is all about judgment!"

gumby

I'll vouch for others.

I attended a bible class called BSF ( bible study fellowship)

The speaker said one time that there were over 40 various faiths in our group ( all christian, but different denominations) Never was any one faith put down or was there any dogmatic stance on how others viewed the bible passages.

The one problem I have is the viewpoint christians have toward others who begin to doubt and feel that their christian faith may be another sham and have doubts or completely abanddon it. These ones are earnest in their decision as they were when they left the dubs......yet the scriptures say to deny christ is a very bad thing worthy of punishment. How are these one supposed to feel?

Gumby

Billygoat

I'll vouch for others.
I attended a bible class called BSF ( bible study fellowship)
The speaker said one time that there were over 40 various faiths in our group ( all christian, but different denominations) Never was any one faith put down or was there any dogmatic stance on how others viewed the bible passages.

I have an aversion to using the term "The Truth" for obvious reasons. But I do think that churches that conduct themselves like this, are probably closer to the Life that Christ was trying to get people to consider. I go to a Baptist church, which may make some of you readers squirm or cringe. But I've found that my church and other local (other denominations as well!) are very open to fellowshipping and sharing preachers for preaching on Sunday. There is little judgement in my experience.

I think many exJWs are turned off by churches because of what the JWs taught the churches would be like. Now don't get me wrong, I'm sure there are bad apples out there. But to say that ALL Christianity is about judgement is completely false. You are either tied up in JW think or you haven't looked enough for a church that defies that statement. Come to Texas and I'll show you many churches that aren't like that. Go to Australia and I'm sure Ozzie could do the same.

I find general and broadsweeping statements like that just as immature and short-sited as believing your church is The Truth. It's not a black and white thing.

ithinkisee

I do feel that George Bush's style of christianity is more about judgement than love.

The other night on Trading Spouses a Christian wife traded places with a Unitarian wife. The friends of the Christian wife belittled the Universalist wife to the point of tears because she did not believe in their god but instead in a "higher power". That sounds like judgement to me.

One of my good friends has a girlfriend who is a born again christian and will NOT marry him unless he accepts Jesus Christ as his lord and savior. They had a child together and her whole family is holding this over his head. He REALLY loves this girl too. He is a moral and upright guy. Yet they hold this over his head? That sounds like judgement to me.

Some of the most blatant racism takes place in Christian churches ... they are often some of the most segregated (racially, financially, and socially) than many other places.

I do not intend to discount all Christians with my observations ... but they are my observations.

-ithinkisee

AuldSoul

The one problem I have is the viewpoint christians have toward others who begin to doubt and feel that their christian faith may be another sham and have doubts or completely abanddon it. These ones are earnest in their decision as they were when they left the dubs......yet the scriptures say to deny christ is a very bad thing worthy of punishment. How are these one supposed to feel?

Gumby, for what it's worth I think such a person judges themselves as much or more than anyone else judges them. "How are [they] supposed to feel?" Hell, I guess they're supposed to feel however they feel.

Do they feel they abandoned something important to them? Maybe they should reconsider having abandoned it.

Do they feel they abandoned something worthless to them? They made the right call.

Are they having doubts? Good!

Are they firmly convinced there's nothing to it? Good!

Are they firmly convinced they left God and are damned for all of eternity because of it? What a small and petty God they serve, if so.

AuldSoul

In my opinion, opinions should be valued at the recipient's discretion.

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