Abaddon/Apollyon what exactly was the point to referring to Jesus as demonic? Do you believe he was?
Help! I want a Christian person to tell me who Abadon is in Rev.9:11?
by amommy 27 Replies latest watchtower beliefs
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Leolaia
worship Abaddon as the deity that will bring the Apocolypse
abaddonapollyon...Just to be clear, on the basis of what you write in http://jasgrave333.blogspot.com (that your name "Jason Graves" = Abaddon/Apollyon), you are claiming to be the Abaddon of Revelation, i.e. Jesus Christ himself (on your view), and that you are to be worshipped as a deity?
BTW, did Armageddon come on 10 December 2005 as you predicted?
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amommy
Also people! The keys of Death and Hades in Rev 1:18 probably means power of Death ( I mean if you have the key to making the best pie then it means you have mastered it! He mastered Death of Man through his ranson and therefore has the Key to it.) And if Satan was locked in an abyss with his lesser in royalty companions the demons then he'd be king over them. The angel opening the Abyss is just freeing him to finish his up his job.
The WT of 12/1/61 pg's 717-20 were so silly as to imply that the sting of these locusts ( their literature condemning Christendom was so bad that it made them seek death but unable to find it!) Wow, I somehow don't see people that worried in Christendom.
I'm telling you I would not be stamping myself with Abaddon/Apollyon
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amommy
LEO post 6084. Girl you are right on it with that observation!!!!!!! Had'nt noticed that in 1:18 he already has the key and in 9:1 he gave to the angel that would open it to unleash his King of Hell opposer for his big take him out!!!!!!!!!!! Ding Ding
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amommy
Nice try abaddon/apollyon Christ being Demonic! LOL Right! Would'nt Satan love that! He tried, I mean he took him to that mountain and offered him his Fleshy rotten world but Jesus did'nt want it. Also a lion is figurative for Kingship as a lion is King of the Jungle!
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amommy
Abaddon/apollyon you said they ( the locusts) in REV. had teeth of a lion not the face and that would mean beast like. Ever seen lion's teeth. There is a difference when comparing one with a Lion's teeth and the actual lion. And early you did let on Jesus was Demonic. Go read your own words.
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Leolaia
There is also an interesting link between the description of the opening of the abyss and the eruption of Mount Vesuvius in AD 79 as related by Cassius Dio. According to Dio, the sound of heavenly trumpets were heard before the eruption (66.23.1; cf. Revelation 9:1), and the sun was blocked out for several days by the plumes of ash (66.22.4, 66.23.4-5), just as the smoke from the abyss "darkened the sun and the air" in Revelation 9:2 (cf. also 8:12). Dio also claimed that frightened people saw giants flying through the air (66.22.2), presumably released from Tartarus where they had been interred by Zeus many eons ago, "for at that time many of their forms could be discerned in the smoke" (66.23.1). See also Apollodorus, who reports the belief that the prisons of Tartarus were below volcanoes in Greece and Italy (1.6.1; cf. 1 Enoch 18:10-11, on the bottomless fiery abyss being located "inside those mountains"). The woe in Revelation 8:8-9 also bears some striking similarities with the eruption of Vesuvius (compare Cassius Dio 66.23.2 and Pliny the Younger, Epistle 6.20.9 on the destruction of sea life).
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peacefulpete
Any thoughts about the mountain in chapter 8 'thrown into the sea' being volcano imagery? If so is this the abyss/pit of chapter9?