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Indeed the Society has a policy which is designed to handle these problems in the appropriate way and it is not for you or me to try to dictate these policies and procedures.
Yup they absolutely do in it "in the appropriate way". That doesn't mean in the right way, or the most helpful way, or the in the best interests of the child way. Apprpriate way means in the way where we get to keep our reputation.
The Society can never be accused of inaction or silence when gross sin especially immorality is carried on within the Christian Congregation becaus elders are charged with the responsibility with keeping the congregation clean.
Yes you are right again. They are not inactive. They will do anything to make the congregation look clean and that includes sacrificing the hurts of little childran with the intent of keeping the congregation clean in appearances.
I am glad to know that you do not believe that the Society deliberately causes acts of abuse but apostates strive to create that impression by their vile propaganda.
Well I'm going to disagree with you here. Silence, inaction, covering up are all very deliberate acts. They have knowledge and refuse to act. And like I said previously they have failed to hand the list of pedophiles over to the authorities.
Another statement that I disagree with. apostates strive to create that impression by their vile propaganda. Apostates don't have to create anything. They are far more honest that the WTS has ever been. The only thing they want is total honesty and safety for the victims.
Franz's comments on this subject were posted when this subject broke out in the media and his comments which were posted on this board indicated that he did not endorse many of the accusations made against the Society.
Wrong again. What he did not endorse was the use of the two witness rule being applied to cases of sexual abuse. What he did not endorse was the covering up of the abuse and hiding behind a policy that is absurd. Do your homework before making unfounded claims.
The experience of Bowen and Anderson only serves to illustrate the folly of individuals running ahead and thinking that know best and that things should be done their way.
You know what, this organization has a very long history of setting people up for abuse, beatings, imprisonment and death. All the way back to Rutherford people have become the victims of the WTS' need to prove a witness. Here is the short list:
- Rutherford's plan to make a name for the org by sending people out preaching knowing full well that they would get arrested
- Double standard for JWs in Mexico and Malawi - in Mexico to protect their assets and in Malawi to make a name over the persecution over a 25 cent card.
- a blood issue that keeps changing and is built on lies and has caused thousands of people's lives
- the emotional and psychological damage done to children who have been forced to take a stand
- abuse issues both for children whose basic needs for safety and for adults who are abused by their spouses.
And it goes on and on. All for the sake of making a name for themselves. How interesting that in all of these sases the WTS places it "name" and "reputation" ahead of the needs of those they are supposedly shepherding.
If they were truly smart and wise they should have just prayerfully submitted their concerns and simply waited for the matter to be dealt with in the appropriate manner. Not very smart these dem poztates.
It seems to me people are just really tired of knowing that not only are they victims but that it still occurrs and little children are still being sacrificed for the sake of the WT name.
Yes there are many stories but how many of these are in fact truthful and honest or have these many stories or case studies been sullied by apostate propaganda?
Excuse me but... I have worked with many abuse survivors. My last count (about 5 years ago) was over 600. No one - and I mean not one of them - was proud to tell people they were sexually violated. So many of them didn't want anyone to know. I was the first person most of them said anything to. This is a label that one does not take on for entertainment value. As for the JWs who have been abused my professional opinion is that if anyone has sullied the experiences it is the elders who have forced child victims to sit in the same room with their abuser and repeat every thing that was done to them. And that was done simply to determine the spiritual guilt of the abuser.
If you have been damaged by abuse then you need to seek professional counselling or medical treatment and you should also receive spiritual help by means of prayer, study, attendance at Meetings with help from the local elders. All is not lost if you turn to the Lord for help.
I have gotten the help I needed no thanks to the WTS. As for the spiritual help from the eelders. No thank you. For 22 years they had the chance to help and their "help" moved me to the brink of suicide. Unlike my sister and my aunt who both died because the untreted trauma was too great a burden to carry.
All that apostates have done is to stir up and muddy the waters over this issue using it as a vehicle for lies and slander,
No all apostates have done is bring the problem to light.
their interference has achieved nothing for victims as they do not offer any spiritual help which is the best kind of assistance for such victims.
Actually in the list of basic needs survival and safety come before spiritual needs. If a person is not safe and their existence is at risk then they cannot focus on spiritual needs. Basic psychology and sociology 101.
If in time current policies need to be improved then adjustments are made at the appropriate time and manner.
Meanwhile children continue to be put in danger of know child abusers and continue to be abused
Unfortunately, you blame the Society for your sad situation and your distress but they did not cause or bring such evil things into your life.
Did you read what I posted above? By their inaction and silence both my sister and my aunt were abused and eventually committed suicde due to the WTS inaction. I was seriously contemplating suicide because of the years of inaction and silence by the silence. By their inaction they allowed to abuse to continue. THAT makes them responsible!
you should focus on the criminal who assaulted and those in the world at large that encourage pornography and violence especially the Devil and his agents.
Well the "criminal" is dead so now I know for sure that he will never hurt another child. But because he was never reported he naturally is not a "criminal" Thanks to WT policy he was never reported.
And I'm not sure why you keep talking about pornography and violence. In my first post to you I thought I was pretty clear that pornography was only an issue with one of those abusers and it wasn't the one who was in theJWs.
