DAMNED CONSCIENCE:JW Hypocrites Who Take Blood Products (page 4)

joelbear

one of a thousand ways JW's are hypocrites.

M.J.

Think of all those people who are dying unnecessarily because the WTS won't come out and say that it's okay to store blood.

steve2

one of a thousand ways JW's are hypocrites.

But, tragically, also one of the most lethal ways for those whose consistent consciences won't allow them to be hypocritical.

The further down the line from the WTS' earlier hardline approach on this issue gets, the more muddied and confused and petty their arguments and concessions become. Now, to accept any blood-related fractions or nearly any expanders, etc., is akin to just taking blood itself, as many/most derive from some fractional component of blood- kinda like sucralose, derived from sugar, can't make it without sugar, but it's not officially sugar. The point appears moot.

As with many other items, make a solid, prayerful, biblical/faith-based decision of personal conscience and move on- NOT a decision based on fear of reprisals by men or man-made pressure(s), be it donating or accepting blood directly or blood fractions. If they still choose hypocritical techniques after a decision of personal conscious has been made, call them on it- even blame it on them- and forget them. Once no longer concerned over what they'll will, wish or dictate they're truly powerless- really like preaching just to hear themselves preach.

To quote a good country song, "You've got to stand for something [particularly what you know to be right] or you'll fall for anything. You've got to be your own man- not a puppet on a string." (Aaron Tippin) It's too bad that even the WTS hasn't figured that one out. Otherwise they might have less to account for now if they had.

tijkmo

the illustration that jws use to explain the expression 'abstain from blood'......is that if your doctor told you to abstain from alchohol you would avoid it completely, not just stop drinking it but then take it in food or inject it. if i was still jw i would argue that the allowing of blood fractions would be similar to not taking alchohol but that there would be no problem in taking the raw ingredients - water sugar cereals etc etc - before they were mixed into liquid form and fermented....to become alchohol

however the argument here is that blood is already blood and is then being broken down and yet jws teach that any blood removed should be poured out...and yes that does reek of hypocrisy..

DannyHaszard

EXTRA EXTRA EXTRA Blood ban 'bad press' getting more bad Blood ban riddled with complexity

Fort Wayne Journal Gazette, IN - 4 minutes ago (an 28 2006 the day weekend of the "BIG" news AP news wire syndication)

y Richard N. Ostling. NEW YORK – Jehovah’s Witnesses are renowned for teaching that Jesus is not God and that the world as we know it will soon end. ...

Blood ban riddled with complexity

By Richard N. Ostling

Associated Press

NEW YORK – Jehovah’s Witnesses are renowned for teaching that Jesus is not God and that the world as we know it will soon end. But another unusual belief causes even more entanglements – namely, that God forbids blood transfusions even when patients’ lives are at stake. The doctrine’s importance will be underscored next week as elders who lead more than 98,000 congregations worldwide recite a new five-page blood directive from headquarters. The tightly disciplined sect believes the Bible forbids transfusions, though specifics have gradually been eased over the years. Raymond Franz, a defector from the all-powerful Governing Body that sets policies for the faith, thinks leaders hesitate to go further for fear that total elimination of the ban would expose the organization to millions of dollars in legal liability over past medical cases. The Witnesses have opposed transfusions of whole blood since 1945. A later pronouncement also barred transfusions of blood’s “primary components,” meaning red cells, white cells, platelets and plasma. An announcement in 2000 in the official Watchtower magazine, however, said that because of ambiguity in the Bible, people are free to decide about therapies using the biological compounds that make up those four blood components, such as gamma globulin and clotting factors that counteract hemophilia. Next week’s directive could create confusion about these compounds, known as blood “fractions.” Without noting the 2000 change, the new directive tells parents to consider this: “Can any doctor or hospital give complete assurance that blood or blood fractions will not be used in treatment of a minor?” Aside from the new directive, a footnote in the Witnesses’ standard brochure “How Can Blood Save Your Life?” mentions the 2000 article on fractions but then omits its contents. By coincidence, next week’s directive follows some heavy criticism of the blood transfusion policy from attorney Kerry Louderback-Wood of Fort Myers, Fla., writing in the Journal of Church and State, published by Baylor University. Louderback-Wood, who was raised a Witness but now has no religious affiliation, accuses her former faith of giving “inaccurate and possibly dishonest arguments” to believers facing crucial medical decisions. “We’re not out to argue with those people,” says Richard Dellinger, city overseer in Fort Wayne and a member of the Hospital Liaison Committee for Jehovah’s Witnesses. “The matters of Jehovah’s Witnesses are not generally brought before the public in TV and radio and newspapers by Jehovah’s Witnesses,” he says. “We communicate within our own organization, and we know that we are following Bible principles just like the apostles in the early church did.” Dellinger says the Bible is “very clear to abstain from blood.” He adds, “it didn’t say you could make an exception if some doctor says you need a transfusion.” Louderback-Wood, however, complains that many Witnesses and physicians aren’t given clear instruction about their faith’s blood transfusion policy, particularly on the subject of fractions . She’s no disinterested bystander. The lawyer says her mother died from severe anemia in 2004 because local elders didn’t realize hemoglobin is permitted. Louderback-Wood learned that hemoglobin was allowed from the Web site of Associated Jehovah’s Witnesses for Reform on Blood, which was founded in 1997 by dissenting local elders, eight of whom served on Hospital Liaison Committees that advise Witnesses and physicians. The founder of Associated Jehovah’s Witnesses, speaking on condition of anonymity to protect his standing in a faith that does not tolerate dissent, says liaison committee members know about the revised teachings, but most Witnesses automatically refuse all forms of blood without consulting the committees. Physicians are often ill-informed about Witness beliefs, he says. Louderback-Wood thinks the faith is subject to legal liability for misinforming adherents, which to her knowledge is an untested theory in U.S. courts. Related issues arise in a pending lawsuit in Calgary, Alberta, however, over the alleged “wrongful death” of teenage leukemia patient Bethany Hughes. Witnesses headquarters declined an Associated Press request to interview an expert on blood beliefs. Instead, General Counsel Philip Brumley issued a prepared statement rejecting Louderback-Wood’s “analysis and conclusions” in general. “Any argument challenging the validity of this religious belief inappropriately trespasses into profoundly theological and doctrinal matters,” Brumley stated. The Watchtower’s 1945 ban said “all worshippers of Jehovah who seek eternal life in his new world” must obey. Such edicts are regarded as divine law, because the Governing Body uniquely directs true believers. Violators risk ostracism by family and friends. A subsequent Watchtower pronouncement forbade storage of a patient’s own blood for later transfusion. In all, Associated Jehovah’s Witnesses lists 20 shifts and refinements in blood-related rules over the years. At the core of their blood beliefs, Witnesses cite Acts 15:29, where Jesus’ apostles agreed that Gentile converts should “keep abstaining from things sacrificed to idols and from blood.” The Witnesses also cite passages in Genesis and Leviticus. Judaism and Christianity have always understood these Scriptures to ban blood-eating for nourishment. This underlies Judaism’s kosher procedures to extract blood from meat, which Witnesses do not follow. Christianity eventually decided the rule was temporary. Experts assume that Raymond Franz’s late uncle, Frederick Franz, who served anonymously as the Witnesses’ chief theologian, decided those passages cover blood transfusions. But Raymond Franz raises questions about the blood policy in his book “In Search of Christian Freedom.” Among them: •Why forbid a patient’s own stored blood yet permit components derived from large amounts of donated and stored blood? •Why allow organ transplants, which introduce far more foreign white blood cells than transfusions? •The Witnesses forbid plasma, which is mostly water, but allow the components in it that provide therapy. So what’s the point of banning plasma? Advances in bloodless surgery have reduced medical dangers for Witnesses in the United States, but Associated Jehovah’s Witnesses maintains the blood policy is a life-threatening problem elsewhere. Louderback-Wood says she’ll be contented if her protest saves one child’s life.

EXTRA EXTRA EXTRA Witness beliefs Jehovah’s Witnesses, famous for door-to-door evangelism, believe their faith’s authorities, based in Brooklyn, N.Y., teach the only true interpretations of the Bible, including these tenets: •Orthodox Christianity wrongly believes in the Trinity, one God in three persons. Jesus isn’t God, and the Holy Spirit is merely God’s impersonal power. •Before his earthly birth, Jesus was the Archangel Michael. •The last days began in 1914 and the War of Armageddon will occur while people conscious of 1914 events remain alive. (Before 1975, Witnesses literature strongly suggested that the final war would occur while people who lived during World War I were still alive.) •After the current world system ends, true believers will enjoy paradise on Earth while 144,000 of the anointed rule with Jesus in heaven. Others will be annihilated, not punished eternally, since hell is the grave. •God’s proper name is Jehovah. •“Pagan” observances such as Christmas, birthdays and national holidays shouldn’t be celebrated. •Since Satan rules this world, true believers must not vote, hold public office, serve in the military or salute national flags. •Jesus died on a single “torture stake,” not a cross. •Believers should consider “theocratic” careers without worldly higher education.

DAMNED CONSCIENCE:JW Hypocrites Who Take Blood Products