What's The Difference Between A "Worldy Person" & JW??? (page 2)

minimus

It seems then that there's a lot of JWs still here. :)

greendawn

A JW is a worldly person that made a few cosmetic improvements to his personality and thinks that he is totally different from the rest of mankind, he deserves paradise but they do not.

Forscher

Worldy people have more fun! Hee, hee, hee!

atypical

I would attack from a different angle, and make them identify clearly who is considered worldly. I would ask questions like these:

1. How do you define "wordly"?

2. Who is more worldly, an elder who secretly committs adultery, or an inactive person who supports his elderly witness parents?

3. Who decides who is worldly? Jehovah, or people?

4. If it's people, are they using their own criteria, or the bible's?

5. If it's Jehovah, then how can we be sure if a person is really wordly, or in "the truth"?

6. Does Jehovah judge only, or does he allow people to judge for him?

7. If an elder who secretly practices sin wrongly disfellowships a repentant believer, is that disfellowshipped one really wordly?

8. If a sincere elder does not disfellowship a person who unrepentantly practices sin, is that sinner really in "the truth"?

9. So can you really define who is "wordly" by their membership in an organization?

Oh, I dunno. How 'bout referring to that little black book (or green one if you're old enough) called the Bible. Show them Jesus' discussion of the Pharisees praying on the street corner and how he dismisses those that think too highly of himself. Or "He who is standing should be wary he does not fall".

When you ask why the are superior, they will say it's because they are the most well-educated Bible students on earth. Review with them the scriptures on pride, humility, outward displays of self-righteousness. They probably won't make the connection, but at least you tried.

The real difference between 'worldly' and JW.....worldly people have the ability to think independently, JW's have the ability to be dependent on an organization to run their lives.

FairMind

I always start talking about someone (a JW or ex-JW) I know who was raised in the TRUTH and subsequently did some very bad things perhaps winding up in prison. It's important that the example used is someone born into the organization as this prevents the comeback that they just reverted back to their worldly ways.

JAVA

The difference between a normal worldy person and a JW is mind control.

sass_my_frass

I'm glad you put "Worldly Person" in quotes, as they have their own definition of the word. Most "Worldly People" would be proud that somebody considers them 'streetwise' and 'experienced'.

jojochan

I agree w/ java on that one. It's soooo bizarre. If you put me in a room with a bunch of people, in some weird way I could spot a dub WAY across the room. The difference? hmm... one HAS freedom while the other "claims" to have "true" freedom. IMHO.

Poztate

A "worldly" person is normal. A JW is not.

I got into this a few times with my wife.At times she will get on one of her"worldly people" rants. I just say you mean regular normal people don't you ? She never does really see the point but then I am married to a "lifer"

What's The Difference Between A "Worldy Person" & JW???